Blinded by agreement?
by Nomad2, 04.09.05 05:59 pm
Is it possible that most critics, galleries and art historians are unable to move without the confirmation of people they think as higher than themselves or as authorities? Why are real choices (of artists or "movements") always and only made in consent with others? Let me know what you think are the reasons for this common behaviour or policy in the "art world" which is quite discouraging.
Re: Blinded by agreement?
by epforbrush (04.09.05 09:55 pm)
I disagree. Often it is just one person that's a gallerist or curator or critic who likes your work and s/he moves the board or business or institution on your behalf. At least that has been my experience.
Re: Blinded by agreement?
by alienbarbiebaby (04.10.05 02:02 am)
ah, never; I'd like to have fun but under current sircumstances, doctrinair punk/modern artist commited to be one of the bigest asholes in the world; Celine did in fact stand up at a speach by hitler and ..."Wow...master race...no way...shorty is the best...." "I love the wesssssst" becomes "I love stalingrad......"I guess you hang out with an in crowd. I dunno - leave. Methodolgy? Reason d'etre? Comitment? Star time? Frieght train?
Re: Blinded by agreement?
by kettle black (04.10.05 02:11 am)
CON SENSE US comes either from the top down - like from Fat Man and Little Boy or from the bottom up - like the French Revolution.
Re: Blinded by agreement?
by Jareth (04.10.05 02:26 am)
it is true.
death has come to the patron.
long live the collector. long live the merchant.
Re: Blinded by agreement?
by kettle black (04.10.05 02:55 am)
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You have to remember to hit space because you have to reload. than that just dont panick and hit the tower or the wall first. Once you clear the one the other is easy. The next level is a cakewalk. I dont understand why this game is "locked." Who would buy it? Are there any boss levels? This smells like a high school programming project.
Re: Blinded by agreement?
by kettle black (04.10.05 03:13 am)
So its a hollow victory right? I assume you finished Mission 1.
"Is that all there is," you ask yourself. Well yes. That IS all there is.
I'm here to tell you, as a critic, that there is more to it than that. This video game is derivative of a video game which is in turn derivative of the WWII movies, which in turn is derivative of WWII which is in turn derivative of say, the Romans, the Greeks, and so on.
The video game is actually a franchise now - including medal of honor, medal of honor allied assaul;t, and medal of honor something or other.
The one I played - sorry I don't know which, had a level where you were storning the beach at Normandy. Well, that level has some nice gameplay. You come out on the beach and hide behind tank traps. Then you find various medis, because you take fire and are wounded constantly. You navigate thebeach through several shell craters as machine guns and shells tear up your comrades.
At the top of the beach is a fence that must be blown up. From there you go into another dangerous zone, and then into the trenches.
Its all very exciting and you forget the outside reality. I find it as entertaining qas Ma Johng or minesweeper - plus five.
Re: Blinded by agreement?
by kettle black (04.10.05 08:58 am)
www.mine-sweeper.com/
Consensus
Re:Throwing paper into the void.
by zipthwung (04.10.05 10:22 am)
Commanders who were unable to come to grips with this new type of warfare developed the concept of attrition. The idea was to defeat the enemy by destroying more men and equipment, than the enemy was able to destroy of your own. The side with the most men and equipment left at the end of a battle would then be declared the winner. Attrition of enemy soldiers and equipment became a goal of generals to prove that they were actually doing something successful.
Re: Give your eyes to science so that posterity may see.
by zipthwung (04.10.05 10:25 am)
Triage is a system used by medical or emergency personnel to ration limited medical resources when the number of injured needing care exceeds the resources available to perform care so as to treat the greatest number of patients possible.
When performed in accordance with accepted medical practices, triage is recognized and sanctioned by law in most countries.
Re: Blinded by agreement?
by alienbarbiebaby (04.10.05 02:35 pm)
way to go! 0-3 queen:
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Re: Blinded by agreement?
by thingsthatgo (04.10.05 09:32 pm)
When you are in need of a little direction (sing-along), and you are not sure which way to go (fingers on chin).
Walk out on a star-lit night and gaze up unto the show (sway a little). If those stars are twinkling bright (twiddle the fingers), and you have pretty good sight (hands in front), you'll see as clear as day the direction that is right (march a bit).
Re: really?
by myprettypony (04.10.05 09:38 pm)
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Re: Blinded by agreement?
by penelope (04.10.05 11:16 pm)
Following the leader, the leader, the leader
We're following the leader wherever he may go
We won't be home till morning, till morning
We won't be home till morning
Because he told us so
Tee dum, tee dee
A teedle ee do tee day
We're out for fun
And this is the game we play:
Come on, join in
And sing your troubles away
With a teedle ee dum
A teedle do tee day
We're following the leader, the leader, the leader
We're following the leader wherever he may go
We won't be home till morning, till morning
We won't be home till morning
Because he told us so
Tee dum, tee dee
A teedle ee do tee day
We march along and
These are the words we say:
Tee dum, tee dee,
A teedle deelde deeay
Oh, a teedle ee dum
A teedle ee do tee day
Oh, a teedle ee dum
A teedle ee do tee day
Re: Blinded by Science?
by zip (04.11.05 05:19 am)
When all are one and one is all
To be a rock and not to roll.
Re: Every Dinosaur?
by zip (04.11.05 05:31 am)
I like how small towns have their names on the water tower. Makes it easier.
Re: Blinded by agreement?
by alienbarbiebaby (04.11.05 05:38 am)
Last 23 - quality: 1: aparently - Joey Ramone; sort of a theam at war/republican time...honest, you thought thy were responsible professional getting ready to do voluteer service and they satrt making coments about which gang your in and blowing each other out jobs because the wear the wrong socks; way down the list; really - dadio - 6 year list before I have to joine a gang: currently hoping for a compilation of early blondy; Dr SL: I dated her. Dinasours - these guys are in the 70's- if their lucky, like...they nod knowingly at Jackson still not quite sure; quadruple negations baby doll; actual smart guys at the CIA are waiting for the end of the war to do a nice synthasist; car market - so important : Hudson Wasp in the one I want (even the Dinky is tricky to win); but this one _ love the description:
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Re: Blinded by agreement?
by broken flower (04.11.05 01:25 pm)
Re: Blinded by agreement?
by broken flower (04.11.05 04:25 pm)
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THINK I GOT YOUR DIAL TONE
THINK I GOT BILLY BAXTER'S BONE
THINK I GOT A BUBBLE-SAC
THINK I GOT A BIG MAC ATTACK
HOLD THE PICKLES HOLD THE LETTUCE
SPECIAL ORDERS DON'T UPSET US
ALL WE ASK IS THAT YOU LET US
SERVE IT YOUR WAY
TOO MUCH PARANOIAS
MY MOMMA'S AFRAID TO TELL ME
THE THINGS SHE'S AFRAID OF
I BEEN DIPPED IN DOUBLE MEANING
I BEEN STUCK WITH STATIC CLING
THINK I GOT A RUPTO-PAC
THINK I GOT A BIG MAC ATTACK
Re: Blinded by agreement?
by broken flower (04.11.05 05:32 pm)
Broken Flower
by oops ment (04.11.05 07:59 pm)
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Broken Link. Broken Link, Broken Flower.
Introductions Rule!
Re: Blinded by agreement?
by broken flower (04.11.05 08:54 pm)
but i did fix it
or you could go to the directory
www.mutato.com/
maybe
blowhole.jpg is a good one
Re: Blinded by agreement?
by rockhudson (04.11.05 09:07 pm)
26 cafes found within my area code and 46 starbucks stores- i bet i've been in 25 or 26 of the cafes- yummy yum yum
Re: Noo One is MOre Prodfessional than I
by zip (04.11.05 09:16 pm)
Leadership starts at the top, with the character of the leader, with your character. In order to lead others, you must first make sure your own house is in order. For example, the first line of The Creed of the Noncommissioned Officer states, "No one is more professional than I." But it takes a remarkable person to move from memorizing a creed to actually living that creed; a true leader is that remarkable person.
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Go Gophers!
Re: Blinded by agreement?
by zip (04.11.05 09:37 pm)
I wanted a cup of coffee and all I saw was Starbucks. Fortunately there was a McDonald's next door. I like their coffee better. So I went in. There was a long line of people.
I didn't see anyone reading or using a laptop. Maybe its the lighting.
I'm not sure what the music was - I'm generally aware of that though. In the McDonalds its lite-rock or easy-motown or something like that.
In the Starbucks they sell the music at the counter. Savy. My fave was Old Madonald sung in various styles - broadway finale, soulfull, swinging, you name it. I tipped a whole dollar.
lower side UPPERCASE
by thingsthatgo (04.11.05 10:34 pm)
A VISITING FRIEND AND I BRAVED A STARBUCKS THIS WEEKEND IN KAYABACHO. IT WAS CLOSE TO THE STATION AND FRIEND HAD NEVER BEEN IN ONE. THE FOLLOWING DAY AFTER TRUDGING ROUND HALF A DAY LOOKING FOR THE LOST LAMB FRIEND SUGGESTS, HEAD PULLED TO THE DOOR OF ANOTHER STARBUCKS, THIS TIME IN ANOTHER PART OF TOWN, THAT WE GO IN.
WELL. I stopped, turned, and offered in a slow and even voice, ''Once is forgiven, twice is just plain bad luck."
WE MOVED ALONG. NO LAMB
Re: Blinded by agreement?
by rockhudson (04.11.05 10:52 pm)
i actually don't like the taste or the price of starbucks coffee... the only time i let myself buy coffee is when i am on a roadtrip... my fav is the 7/11 flavors like hazelnut or vanilla...yum
Re: Blinded by agreement?
by zip (04.11.05 11:49 pm)
Dude remember one foreign speaking poster on Polysemic messages and advertising? No? Well it resonated with me, you know because I really dig this ambiguity stuff. I know there was a dude that wrote about polysemy in Art but I forget who it was.
I think the following painting is ambiguously good but the writing isn't.
www.durand-gallery.com/
One thing is that I like the lamb in the vitrine. Like Damien Hirst has never seemed like the funny guy - and maybe he is. But If you can make jokes at his expense then he's not the funny guy.
www.durand-gallery.com/
Also, I don't want to be the funny guy unless people take me seriously - like I'm not just joking. I mean I'm never just putting you on. I mean I really craft my
Re: Blinded by agreement?
by zip (04.12.05 12:23 am)
Scroll to the bottom for todays alnalytical subject, a collection of phrases entitled:
ANALOGIES YOU PROBABLY WON'T FIND IN GREAT LITERATURE
"John and Mary had never met. They were like two hummingbirds who had also never met. "
Is nice because it is true, but a non-sequitur. Like are John and Mary speed freaks? We just don't know..
"Her eyes were like two brown circles with big black dots in the center.
"
Is funny because it takes something poetic - similies and makes them literal. At least thats why I think its funny.
Long separated by cruel fate, the star?crossed lovers raced across the grassy field toward each other like two freight trains, one having left Cleveland at 6:36 p.m. traveling at 55 mph, the other from Topeka at 4:19 p.m. at a speed of 35 mph.
Relies on CONTEXT and I think is probably one of the funnier jokes, though I've seen it done elsewhere, believe it or not. When something becomes recognizeable like this it becomes a Gag. As in, that old gag.
Re: why do women always go to the bathroom in groups?
by epforbrush (04.12.05 01:01 am)
i dunno it's not like they get to check each other out or anything
Re: cipe for stew.
by kettle black (04.12.05 01:18 am)
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1 slice buttered toast
1 cup hot milk
put toast on plate
pour milk over the toast
ain't got no plate
use hand for plate
ain't got no butter
omit the butter
ain't got no bread
omit the toast
ain't got no milk
use water
Re: Blinded by the light?
by Coxswain (04.12.05 02:46 am)
Re: Blinded by agreement?
by kettle black (04.12.05 02:51 am)
by: an anonymous coward.
In Los Angeles, in 1976, at the Institute of
Contemporary Arts (LAICA), Cosey and I did a performance
where I was naked. I drank a bottle of whisky and stood on
a lot of tacks. And then I gave myself enemas with blood,
milk and urine, and then broke wind so a jet of blood, milk
and urine combined shot across the floor in front of Chris
Burden and assorted visual artists. I then licked it off
the floor, which was a not-clean concrete floor.
. . . Chris Burden, who's known for being
outrageous, walked out with his girlfriend, saying, "This is
not art, this is the most disgusting thing I've ever seen,
and these people are sick."
Re: Blinded by agreement?
by alienbarbiebaby (04.12.05 03:03 am)
I agree - your an asshole, a drug addict, a member of a drug cartle and a ptjological lier;
anyway:
what's this mean:
World - Reuters
Two Dead in Riots at Cuba's Largest Prison
Mon Apr 11, 4:34 PM ET
World - Reuters
HAVANA (Reuters) - An inmate died on Monday from severe burns suffered a week ago during a riot at Cuba's largest prison, veteran Cuban human rights activist Elizardo Sanchez said.
Re: Blinded by agreement?
by zipthwung (04.12.05 03:34 am)
It means you were scanning the news.
Why? Specifically you found an article on a Cuban prison riot.
"But many of those injured in the last riot, from burns and knife wounds, had been attacked by rioting prisoners for not joining the revolt, he said, citing relatives of the inmates."
Must be fun.
Re: Blinded by agreement?
by alienbarbiebaby (04.12.05 03:35 am)
Hey - guess what: almost time for circle in the square jokes: you guys; honest: american culture: we got plenty. REally..."...hit the road dobbs..." Seriously - fuck off you nazi subnormal swine. Die. You and musto: you peple are sick. Argument in museums: you ar't allowed it; you call ever day and say thank you for not being DEAD dead!!!
Here' america and drug free; 100% legal; never even murdered anyone at closs range:
Re: Blinded by agreement?
by alienbarbiebaby (04.12.05 03:53 am)
oh yea...from craid - come on new..a little..monstery; at least not dead...
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Re: Blinded by agreement?
by jackieou (04.12.05 05:04 am)
come on come on come on - lets fight!
Hey neugene... < R_Toady > 04/12 00:16:40
...that reconstruction site is pretty interesting. I especially enjoyed (I think that's the word) the Kathy Acker article. Although I am not sure I unnerstand most of any of it. Not bad, though.
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you know < neugene > 04/12 00:46:26
I havn't done it yet; I am aquainted with certain participants and they were not completely forward with suplying texts; rather constructing a full force attack. They're buisness, but against my new england princaple. Sort of - 20 points off right there; they are very well conected and well produced, so...we get to deal with it. Actually - I disagree. Computer culture is where it's at; they are a normanclature..tthey get the assit profesurships. All politicts; digestable. A little...old.
——
PS:
ps < neugene > 04/12 00:53:33
see...no
Spivak after Derrida after Marx / Philip Leonard
like:
Derrida himself' does not, however, escape unscathed in this dual act of dispersion and insemination, but is instead rendered essentially incomplete and scattered as the phantasy he has always been. Glas can be read, Spivak states, 'as a fiction of Derrida's proper name turning into a thing, of an autobiographical autotherapy or interminable self-analysis against the duping of self-sovereignty, crypting the signature so that it becomes impossible to spell out'
wittgentstien for really samrt.
Got a little nietsche in there all of a suden(ah - literary Oscarville? - ah..why? Hegal who? What n/marx; test in cultural studies.. really?
Both essays also illustrate the equivocating way in which her work answers this call: 'Glas-Piece' reflects on Glas' myriad threads that tie Hegel to Genet and weave together reason and madness; 'Deconstruction and Cultural Studies' in contrast witnesses a Spivak whose thinking is punctuated by a series of Derridean locutions and motifs. In one sense, these differing strategies allow Spivak to avoid imposing a singular account of the material she explores,
this - no; beasicaly...hump munkey on hgenet - gee are you gay.
no. Old. drop dead - durring a war? Exploitive; another pc army...get fucked..plus..they could have handed it over about 4 years ago reall easy..I knnew where it was and they lied.
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test:
one bottle of jack over the line sweet jesus.
by magdalene (04.12.05 08:48 am)
wow, so 1970's eh... dude i didn't even know i was making Art when i did that !
Re: Blinded by agreement?
by jackieou (04.12.05 12:30 pm)
63 if you ask me..
BIG NEWS:
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Re: Blinded by agreement?
by Jareth (04.12.05 12:37 pm)
A panel of artists and art historians addresses Buren’s groundbreaking work of the 1960s and ’70s in the context of the dominant trends in art production in the U.S. during that period. Leading authorities on Minimalism, Conceptual art, and performance debate how Buren’s work corresponded to and differed from that of his peers in America.
Re: Blinded by agreement?
by oops ment (04.12.05 01:22 pm)
Bow to the Crown
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And do My bidding
Re: Blinded by agreement?
by jackieou (04.13.05 01:05 am)
Yup ...food stylests - I won't make any comment about what fake ethnic groupe claims dibs on that one; thus due for another Micky-d attack any minute: really cycling down you guys; as a mater of fact that look like new Thomas Flyer is listed for about the 4th time- means something to some one: this one I'd love to have:
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Re: Blinded by agreement?
by jackieou (04.13.05 02:55 am)
You laugh, but a...most of these are back at GM carefully gaurded; to actually aquire suck a piece of 70's extravagsa,,,oh..I'm at a loss for words; this is 3 in a row...so...soon...monte carlos...and then we take another lawer of insurance agents and acountants down; 43 acres...sure..unfortunatly..honest...they elong to someone else..
All mod cons and a high milage 924 automatic budy boy..
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Re: Blinded by agreement?
by jackieou (04.13.05 02:22 pm)
Beyound heavy:
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Re: Blinded by agreement?
by jackieou (04.14.05 05:49 am)
I don't like the cross on the roof; I do like the black and god; have to be carefull- like pics of a 35A showed up on the Bugatti message board and someone had obviously done a swarstica contouring - happens; there is a "stone hedge" brescia; strange engin modified for indy so they only run at high rpms...whole collection of 30's "kibble" bugatti that effectively never run; in the 70's bysicals the only worked backward; I knew my near by air brush artits (qyute good - does real GM work with the ego to match) had sort of lost it when he did designes for aloft, air born (like six feet up) monocycles - oh yea, we need those bad; cars that don't run (brass chassis, 327, radio controled..) war era designe os always incredible..
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Re: Blinded by agreement?
by jackieou (04.14.05 05:17 pm)
aparentky - about had it:
Renault cut short testing programme
Thu 14 Apr, 7:43 PM
The Mild Seven Renault F1 Team today finished this second day of testing at Paul Ricard.
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This was also the final day of this week’s testing: poor weather conditions forecast for tomorrow pushed the team to cancel tomorrow’s running, in order to save testing days.
The day was spent working on Michelin tyre development ahead of Imola. Both drivers completed a large mileage, and found promising results.
Christian Silk, Chief Test Engineer
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Re: Blinded by agreement?
by jackieou (04.15.05 04:15 pm)
god - just passed inspection - I could drive it home; have to barrow soe money...but...doable:
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Re: Blinded by my desperation
by myprettypony (04.15.05 10:45 pm)
into thinking i could buy a golden opportunity- just found out i placed some of my work in the hands of an unscrupulous dealer who closed up shop, crated up all the artowrk in her backroom and shipped the motherlode to the u.a.e. where the us laws no longer apply-
Re: Blinded by agreement?
by jackieou (04.15.05 11:28 pm)
Here ya go, eggshell < BowlOfCherries > 04/15 19:01:56
n. pl. bons mots (bô m, mz)
A clever saying; a witticism.
[French : bon, good + mot, word.]
Remember the original poem was about dark chocolate. Hence "bon bon". Helpful hint: I went to dictionary.com and searched the word "mot" to find this out.
Re: Blinded by agreement?
by myprettypony (04.16.05 02:13 am)
i heard 70% of all galleries in NYC are vanity galleries
Re: Blinded by agreement?
by zipthwung (04.16.05 05:38 am)
I'd move to the UAE and steal it back. Fuck that. Even if I "don't care" kill the motherfuckers. Death is too good for them vats of boiling honey, then ants. No two bones left standing. Then tar and feathers. That kind of business is never appreciated. Death.
Re: Ornamental creep?
by epforbrush (04.16.05 11:20 am)
The architects have taken a swirling lace pattern, blown it up to almost cartoonish proportions and then used it, in various colors and materials, to cover the thresholds to the galleries, the walls of the theater and even the concrete entrance gate to the underground parking garage.
Re: Blinded by agreement?
by alienbarbiebaby (04.16.05 04:24 pm)
See - ussed to be part of my daily ritual, and then I got out of the habbit; can be a very good mesure: tweak of the day; counter scam coming up; imaginative use of someone else facial features, or even just drop deap beautiful. Right now...kind of sad - I swear...the porno industry has gone right down the tubes; and his jokes have been terrible since that guy who ussed to make jokes about me commited suicide; no notable because it's so bad....
REally, girls you like throw the rest of drink down fast and leave the bar...
That whole imes square rehab - like my seventh favorite library in nyc..
Re: Blinded by agreement?
by jackieou (04.17.05 10:54 am)
wowwwwwww- the wolf...
bet you they don't even let him; keep jim in stitgart r something - no blue berry mufins for you!
Sebastien Bourdais wins IROC race
Sun 17 Apr, 3:34 AM
2004 Champ Car World Series Champion Sebastien Bourdais started his week in strong fashion, winning the 2005 season opener in Long Beach, but his efforts at the end of the week may have opened even more eyes than the Long Beach win did.
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Bourdais became the first Champ Car driver in 10 years to win a race in International Race of Champions (IROC) competition, storming to the lead early and holding off a fierce challenge from IROC's all-time leading race winner Mark Martin in the final laps to take the victory at Texas Motor Speedway on Friday.
"I knew it was going to be a tough fight in those last laps," Bourdais said. "I knew I had to try and keep the car low on the track but I was having a little trouble that made it tougher. It's a great feeling to win here. Thanks to the IROC people for letting me come here and compete with these guys. This is a great series."
The Champ Car World Series points leader had just one day of IROC practice leading up to Friday's race, owing to the fact that he had to travel cross-country to run in Champ Car testing Wednesday and Thursday in Portland.
Despite the lack of seat time, the Frenchman dominated the event in becoming the first foreign-born driver since 1992 to win an IROC race. The victory, along with the bonus points earned for leading the most laps and for leading at the halfway group boosts Bourdais into second in the 2005 IROC standings, just 10 points behind Martin.
Bourdais started from the pole Friday afternoon, a spot he inherited after a wreck not of his making in the Daytona IROC opener left him last in the Round 1 results. He put that spot to good use, shoulder World of Outlaws legend Steve Kinser aside on Lap 7 to take a lead he would hold for the next 30 trips around the 1.5-mile oval.
He fell behind reigning Nextel Cup champion Kurt Busch on a lap 37 restart brought on by Danny Lasoski's brush with the wall, but took the lead again on Lap 46 when Busch cut a tire and hit the wall. He led easily for the next few laps until Martin tracked him down with five laps to go. The NASCAR veteran tried to find a way around on the final orbits of the Texas track but could not find an opening as Bourdais punched his ticket to Victory Lane.
"Sebastien did a fabulous job," Martin said after Bourdais became the 47th driver ever to win an IROC event.
Re: Blinded by agreement?
by jackieou (04.17.05 10:46 pm)
reaklly ...tadury - don't even try to fake it; I dunno - Pheeel Heeel with his little sweaters. Almost liked this guy; they ussed to pretend he was french:
Alesi wins first round of DTM championship
Sun 17 Apr, 8:38 PM
The first round of the Deutschen Tourenwagen Masters (DTM) took place this weekend at the Hockenheim circuit in Germany.
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Many former F1 drivers were on the grid, including Germans Bernd Schneider and Heinz Harald Frentzen, Scotsman Allan McNish, Frenchman Jean Alesi and Finnish Mika Hakkinen, who made his racing return (albeit competing in a few rallies) after leaving F1 at the end of 2001.
Reigning DTM champion Mattias Ekström started from pole position while Jean Alesi lined up fifth on the grid, 10 places ahead of Mika Hakkinen.
Jean Alesi won the 37-lap race, followed by Mercedes team-mates Gary Paffett (+ 5"643) in second place and Bernd Schneider (+ 6"420) in third position.
“This has been a fantastic weekend," said Jean Alesi on DTM's official website. "The performance of the entire Mercedes-Benz squad was just outstanding. The hard work executed in the past weeks and months has paid off. It felt just great to be back on the highest step of the podium. Now I’ve proven that I’ve still got what it needs to win. I’m impressed that there was such a huge crowd in spite of the mixed conditions. The atmosphere was absolutely fantastic.“
Mika Hakkinen finished in eighth place despite receiving a drive-thru penalty after speeding in the pit area. Heinz Harald Frentzen retired on lap 15 lap after colliding with the Mercedes of Alexandros Margaritis.
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Re: Blinded by agreement?
by confusionIs nothing new (04.17.05 10:56 pm)
good evening bitch.
exactly who are you talking to ?
Re: Blinded by agreement?
by jackieou (04.18.05 12:45 am)
You know - everyone: promotions, media, wierd money; speed and loop; art is, I dunno - bludheoned and then shot...or maybe it was the other way around; everybody I know joined the mob so...I have no friends. Actually - I like to demythologies - I get kidnaped and draged to these events and...they're not really open to the public; old roger pinsky ussed to be in magazines winning events that, I swear to god...never too place. Private tracks.
Anyways - warning - these are coming down the pike: a little note _ Fangio actually ran chevies when most everyone else ran Fords ( an excellent movie was made of all this, buut I never seem to be around when it's shown)
Could get interesting; back around when FDR jaimed a foot down their throat and made them build a decent car.
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