"An Image Bank for Everyday Revolutionary Life"
A discussion related to the 02.03.06 Picks listing:
Re: "An Image Bank for Everyday Revolutionary Life"
by nunculusJbrown (03.03.06 04:26 pm)
Aww. What happened? This was just getting interesting.
Re: "An Image Bank for Everyday Revolutionary Life"
by Madhatter (03.03.06 04:53 pm)
"An Image Bank for Everyday Revolutionary Life"
PICKS
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Re: "An Image Bank for Everyday Revolutionary Life"
by sim99, 02.06.06 04:26 pm
I don't understand the complaint (voiced by Ruben Ortiz Torres, who is not even chicano himself) about the lack of chicano participation in the show..... that preposterous logic would mean that New York insitututions should only show New York artists, that Mexican institutions should only show Mexican artists, and so on. The idea of denomination of origin is very good for champagne, but I don't think that it is a good rule to apply to artistic/cultural production; to keep art parceled out by ethnicity is not particularly productive at this point in time. -Siqueiros wasn't chicano, and the curator's never mentioned that their intention was to make a chicano or even a mexican show-
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Re: "An Image Bank for Everyday Revolutionary Life"
by sportsnews, 02.07.06 12:03 am
politicts aside when I curated ( as it were) um..like..amongst other things..new york..thougt it would be nice if there were some black artists..just..a few..democrat...always chatting...: nooop; some spanish blood thre somewhere...that's it. None...zero; chicano..sort of old, so...;
as for an....(c'est moi?)
todays entry - maybe..4 rotten pieces:
confuso-math
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Re: "An Image Bank for Everyday Revolutionary Life"
by sim99, 02.07.06 12:43 am
thank god you don't curate anymore...
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Re: "An Image Bank for Everyday Revolutionary Life"
by sportsnews, 02.07.06 01:53 am
ah..explane? What part offends you?
...sharon had a gtb
chicano???I don't even remember; you know...be carefull
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Re: "An Image Bank for Everyday Revolutionary Life"
by markmalmgren, 02.07.06 08:14 am
nun, i couldn't have said it any better than you did.... however this 'forum' was hijacked a long time ago by their ilk and you are pissing in the wind if you think you or anyone else is going to stop their banality (which they think is cute and profound, and certainly 'artistic')...
one good thought or insight or question gets posted here and then (maybe) one good and/or insightful response, and then the dribble starts and goes on and on...
by nunculusJbrown, 02.07.06 03:31 am
Will you pseudo-dada art-school dweebs stop fucking posting your cutesy rambling shit on here? So tired of your dumb ads pulled from the Auto Trader and your studied, deliberately misspelled, pseudo-illiterate bullshit. Stay home, eat a vegan brownie and listen to Cat Power, you trust-fund schmucks.
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Re: "An Image Bank for Everyday Revolutionary Life"
by Madhatter, 02.07.06 08:55 am
sounds.wavcentral.com/movies/gm_viet/gmv.mp3
I love the smell of napalm in the morning. Too bad it smells like (insert colorfull colloquialism here please Mark Malmgren and also, tell me what is cute, because I know cute, like puppies in a plastic bag, if you know what I mean.)
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do just what you wantta do with my love...
by somelikeithot, 02.07.06 09:16 am
hey i hope you saved that sweet response somewhere... i like that is the first thing some one did with there morining.. must get up and make things disapear...
i feel a thunder in my heart.
so thats the line eh. - never mention "who has the money and who dosen't"?
who has the talent and will? who has the ride?
all right... pirates. not terroists.
i am ready for a gallery. we got somthing to say
I've been working on a piece that speaks of sex and desperation.
I've been screwing on the tracks of abandoned train stations
One, two, three, four
I got a dealer in Tokyo
I got a rep in Paris
I got a agent in Colone
Shit i got a gallery in New York!
Its a mad house this modern life
Its a mad house my faithless bride
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Re: "An Image Bank for Everyday Revolutionary Life"
by somelikeithot, 02.07.06 10:42 am
artstar and diary are sacred.
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Re: "An Image Bank for Everyday Revolutionary Life"
by sportsnews, 02.07.06 10:49 am
Oh christ you guys, finishing up that damn barney thing, like get lost, find him in the basement, and like...up the sreet,,,wierdest thing...two window across fom each other and like lights on all night and like this couple in one, sort of...atitude happening dude and this babe, I walways notice the babe, and across in the other this big guy, sometimes he 's got one of those cadre lincolns, and like...he sits there not looking at them all night and like...I notice the time...walks up and down with the street with this suit case and then back up like...7.23343536336minutes..really exciting life and it is (no...barney didn't respond...left some wierd messages at his...have the number:"Hello...dead wife..is jane wall there?") and not looking at him and the girl is like doing (we have a couple here ussualy - they don't last long) a fashion show and then out and into a cab like we really got cabs and like..I need some smokes and some body noticed and like irronicaly:"Jee...wonder what's in the suitcase." He just mumbled:"Dead cats..."
"Sure..right...great...all over the place.."
See - if I pay attention at all I'll start msitimeng my emails on purpose - the balck whole of the dilectict...not worth..slurp you into their madness even on an off key ..so...more bunny zen aparently...
I bet they make the windows that exact size on purpose - some...like...wierd vertigo thing or something...
BB
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Re: "An Image Bank for Everyday Revolutionary Life"
by Nomad3, 02.08.06 03:49 pm
And once again, reading these postings, at this point I ask myself: "What is this all about?"
Mark Malmgren is right when he says: 'one good thought or insight or question gets posted here and then (maybe) one good and/or insightful response, and then the dribble starts and goes on and on...'
OK, maybe there are five good and/or insightful responses, but what follows then usually is quite off-topic, to put flattering, or at least very, very hard to follow and not really interesting. Maybe funny for some ...
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here we are now entertain us.
by somelikeithot, 02.08.06 03:58 pm
i think at one point it felt like a secret garden, i met a lot of people who i share work with a great deal off boards and alot of my friends have come and gone, - "childs play" in away, in say comparison to the market. - a form of talking developed because that is just what happens with smaller groups... years before diary.
now it is like being under periscope. i would't guess it is going to go much futher, - which is what you hope i am sure. so we all win.
i look forward to reading what develops.
ball is in your court,
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Re: "An Image Bank for Everyday Revolutionary Life"
by Madhatter, 02.08.06 04:54 pm
"ARTFORUM IS AN ART MAGAZINE published in the west—but not only a magazine of western art. We are concerned first with western activity but claim the world of art as our domain."
I'm a brain in a vat. You know after the first five comments what else is there to say? Why say anything at all?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_forum
I'd restructure talkback so that there was a definite split between thread types - those that pertain to gallery shows in one, sponsored articles and paid reviews in another, and gossip (diary and off topic) posts in another, and so on.
You could separate the poetic from the merely academic, the facetious from the earnest, the commercial from the agitprop.
Arguably the ability to generate and disseminate intergenerational discussion is what keeps Artforum from being Adforum.
If Artforum is just for a certain crowd (older richer conservative) might it not be a bit more explicit in its mission statement?
Cabinet Magazine:
Cabinet is an award-winning quarterly magazine of art and culture that confounds expectations of what is typically meant by the words "art," "culture," and sometimes even "magazine."
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complaints and compliments
by Amanda Drednaught, 02.08.06 06:47 pm
nomad3
it is so much more than what you gather
it is so much more than what you read
it is so much more than what you think
it is so much more than what you feel
it is so much more than what you eat
it is so much more than what you hear
it is so much more than so much more
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i just can not contain me.
by somelikeithot, 02.08.06 07:16 pm
Ok, so I can't leave it alone. I am trying to figure this out (or at least put it in context) - as I do appreciate the consideration… and it does seem to be the topic now….
Threw the grape vine I heard:
"With regard to your group's specialized language, I can only say that it alienates a large number of our other Talk Back users,"
has the Art world really become concerned with issues of "alienation" and "public" over specialized community?
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Re: "An Image Bank for Everyday Revolutionary Life"
by Amanda Drednaught, 02.09.06 01:34 am
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Re: "An Image Bank for Everyday Revolutionary Life"
by Madhatter, 02.09.06 07:47 am
Those who speak the same language are joined to each other by a multitude of invisible bonds by nature herself, long before any human art begins; they understand each other and have the power of continuing to make themselves understood more and more clearly; they belong together and are by nature one and an inseparable whole. ...Only when each people, left to itself, develops and forms itself in accordance with its own peculiar quality, and only when in every people each individual develops himself in accordance with that common quality, as well as in accordance with his own peculiar quality—then, and then only, does the manifestation of divinity appear in its true mirror as it ought to be.
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i'm Jesus Christ and i gave up on Zip's trite long ago, but Chicano ...
by somelikeithot, 02.09.06 11:34 am
Zip is now somelikeithot; use 2b w/ Jareth. His banalities r kinda like the billboard signs on the highway, for those who drive; u kinda don't c them anymore.
but I would like 2 refocus the topic and ask if someone could explain the diff / Chicano/Mexican/Latino/Hispanic?, aside from the obvious mexican relates to mexico, although Taco Bell is said 2b 'mexican', though no mexicans call it such. Curators get on fads and 'ethnicities' r fading. I noticed last year the buzz on ana mendietta vacillated all over the place about her ethnic origins vs. her art roots. Curators wanted it both ways.
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So, mark
by markmalmgren, 02.09.06 11:52 am
how we doin on the war on Cutesy Banalities? I heard that cia had uncovered a Banality Camp right here in NYC. Seems they had alluded Homeland Security up to now by disquising themselves as Columbia u. professors. Those bastards!
radio head seeems so apt: Oh Tar ZZAAAANNNNN., relax relax.
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Re: "An Image Bank for Everyday Revolutionary Life"
by sim99, 02.09.06 12:31 pm
It is a pity that amongst the incredible proliferation of trite and derivative free-flowing "poetry" and self-expression, no user of this forum seems to actually be concerned with art. For the person that wonders about the difference between mexican/chicano/hispanic/latino.... a mexican is a person born in mexico. Chicanos: this is the name that a several people of mexican descent born on the US give to themselves (this is more of a cultural affiliation than a racial condition designated by birth.) Hispanic: any spanish speaking person Latino: Anybody from Latinamerica.
Putting aside the fact that I am not impressed by the quality of the penmanship of anybody on this forum, I still don't understand why are you interested on posting completely irrelevant and unrelated comments in it. I originally posted a comment because I was interested in talking about siqueiros and about this specific exhibition, but I am coming to terms with the fact that the users of this forum that are happily responding to a post regarding the legacy of this artist, actually don't know who he is.
Strange way to spend your time.
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by somelikeithot, 02.09.06 01:28 pm
omg... this is so much fun.
du, - admit it you work at artforum or at least get into there dada base.
i am not zip.
if you can't stand the heat, just keep hanging out in your bakesales. get off our asses.
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Re: "An Image Bank for Everyday Revolutionary Life"
by sim99, 02.09.06 01:45 pm
If I worked for artforum, the first thing I would do would be to have the postings cleaned. I am sorry that you can't believe that there are people with a genuine interest in constructive discussions -and I am also sorry if you believe that the level of the discussions that you guys have is interesting-.
I don't understand what you mean by "if you cannot take the heat" (another trite phrase)..... while I am suprised by the amount of inconsequential rants, bad grammar and misspellings -I never used the forum before- I am quite comfortable answering the thread of postings that I started, maybe someone with something to say will respond at some point.
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Re: "An Image Bank for Everyday Revolutionary Life"
by somelikeithot, 02.09.06 02:00 pm
i wasn't talking to you i was talking to du. and i am defending myself,
one of the things i find interesting in the ny art world at least is how nobody-artists always think everything is about them when they seem to be used as pons in fights far deeper in time and blood. even the art reviews, - read deeper the real boyz are writing in code.
issues of mexicanness are boring to me. if your post was so riviting or whatever at large how could we domintate the conversation? shouldn't we be shadowed over by millions of responses 2 u? ... see they planted diary in the middle of our community and then expected us to jump in line ...
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Re: "An Image Bank for Everyday Revolutionary Life"
by sim99, 02.09.06 02:15 pm
the right spelling of the word is "pawns".
I tried to start a discussion about Siqueiros, and about how his archive was represented in the show that just opened in Los Angeles (this had nothing to do with issues of mexicanness) -but I guess this fourm has nothing to do with serious art and everything to do with posting your own bad "artworks" to the world, complaining together, and trying to find true meaning and spiritual resonance on rock&roll lyrics.
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Re: "An Image Bank for Everyday Revolutionary Life"
by magicmarker, 02.09.06 02:58 pm
—-I heard someone rumble that the show was "not Chicano enough," —-
Perhaps everyone agrees with you. Or perhaps no one is interested at all. Personally, I don't understand why you pick this point to start your thread. It's a rather irrelevent/minor quibble.
Can you make a comment about the show that is more resonant?
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fiddle while bohemia is burning.
by somelikeithot, 02.09.06 03:01 pm
this is not some run of the mill random chat, alot has gone on here - on and off the boards, we read each other intuitivly - (we posted uncensored for many years and unaware there even were other readers)
sorry editors, - this is the last one i will do on here,
a) i know i can't spell. heres about how that early post could read...
www.thecityreview.com/f01scon1c.gif
= koons/banilty.. frames the whole argument as postive, reversing the slam on us as "you think you or anyone else is going to stop their banality (which they think is cute and profound, and certainly 'artistic')..." thru Art historical referance...
omg... this is so much fun.
= "fun" u know what that is right? ie. i do not get paid by artforum so i don't have to worry about how i come off,.. i do this because it is "fun"
du, - admit it you work at artforum or at least get into there dada base.
du is from duchance the invidual/(s) that have a personal problem with many of us on the board, - however express this at least in a simliar dialect
i am not zip.
= "zip" was another alias who posted around the same time as "jareth" they are 2 different people in the flesh and not somelikeithot
if you can't stand the heat, (in referance to alias somelikeit(hot)
= much like banilty, which in the past i have made arugement to its relationship with transendance and "no 'thing' ness" (the lyrics mostly 80's in my case fall into this rubric, and are sometimes word play, others from a common party, often used to "set the mood") - btw try radio nigel in your 80's I-tunes... in this case cliches are also a postive, this further may relate to our often shared time spent getting wasted and having disco singalongs... and the spiritual value of such in a consumer culture.. which brings us to
just keep hanging out in your bakesales.
= a reference, medifore for an open public art market at large where the art products are created for low-level public presention dn consumption as so many of these show are these days
get off our asses.
= that was for the piggy backing on our alias
if you went into another country, - would you force them to speak english...? as the case goes clearly we were cyber squatting on artforums and its over $ changes everything. i respect that...
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Re: "An Image Bank for Everyday Revolutionary Life"
by somelikeithot, 02.09.06 03:03 pm
sorry i did mean pons...
dictionary.reference.com/search?q=pons
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Re: "An Image Bank for Everyday Revolutionary Life"
by sim99, 02.09.06 04:24 pm
Dear, sorry to disappoint you, but thanks to the kind of comments that you post, this IS a random, run-of-the-mill chat.
I wouldn't spend my time trying to make deep readings on your rants, they are just rants. 1980s lyrics are not profound, it is just commercial music. The radio is not talking to you. I thought that most people had that figured out after 14. But maybe I am wrong.
About spelling. I am not American, english is my second language. I would not ask people in another country to speak english, but I would expect them to have a minimum of literacy on their mother tongue, and/or to be acquainted with the dictionary and the spell checking function of their computers.
Disco sing-alongs are not epiphanies, as much fun as they may be. It is always good to keep things in perspective.
A bakesale as a metaphor for the current state of the artworld is not insigthful, it is just a facile comparison. By the way, has it ever occured to you that the fact that you are not a part of the art world, and the reason why they don't take you seriously, may not have anything to do with evil conspiracies of power, but actually it is probably directly related to the fact that you are not so interesting and can't quite spell?
That said, I want to go back to my original interest. It is unfortunate that the remark about the show not being "Chicano enough" made it into the review, since it makes evident that at this point in time, there are still people that use ethnicity as an organizing principle and as a way to assign rights over subject matter. I was surprised by the fact that the irrelevant discussion over who had more rights to work with the images that conform Siqueiros' archive, completely eclipsed the participation of international artists in the exhibition, and thus the work of Anri Sala, Daniel Buren and Martha Rosler (to mention a few) and the relation that they may have established with the material, goes completely unmentioned.
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Re: "An Image Bank for Everyday Revolutionary Life"
by magicmarker, 02.09.06 05:21 pm
So you would rather complain, again, about something you define as an irrelevancy, rather than describe or discuss the work an/or its importance?
I have found that the biggest complainers about the "quality" of the postings on this site, never have anything interesting or constructive to add. Just endless complaints about spelling!
You confirm my findings, sim
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Re: "An Image Bank for Everyday Revolutionary Life"
by somelikeithot, 02.09.06 06:00 pm
lets get one thing clear - you dont know WHO i am WHAT i do WHAT i have been thru HOW HARD I HAVE WORKED TO GET HERE - WHERE I AM GOING OR WHO I KNOW.
i will give you the same benifit of the doubt. - lets get one thing strait. i respect street smarts soul money business and art.
not political correctness and text book smarts and aquired skills... i can't spell because i got smacked around by nuns. for better or worse.
now your the one who keeps complaining about me, - not me about u which derailed this whole thing. i suggest you grab some friends jump up on these boards and show us up if you've got it so deep in ya.
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Okay somelikeit..., u rnot zip, then Jareth?
by sim99, 02.09.06 08:50 pm
anyway sim99, look i'm the painter who has spent years berating zip/Jareth to stop their trites. they don't go away; so again, like billboards they become blank. They google everything, the teleology of which I have never seen. But as Duchance, MMuttt, Warhol, Picasso, Black Male and so on I have tried to get conversations on painting pragmatics, theory, gender, racism to no avail. I worked as a curator and have often criticized the lack of scholarship, esp. when it comes to 20th C.
B4 u get all pedantic though, u don't impress much w/ your take on Hispanic. I quote " ... Hispanic: any spanish speaking person ..."
That would technically make Bush hispanic, since he can speak some Spanish. Moreover, the Mexican who achieves upper middle class, erases all heritage so as not to wear the culture, Armani Johnny as they say, is what? Moreover, I know Latino does not simply refer to Latin american countries, blah, Latino community is used all the time here in nyc 4 Cubans, dominicans, Puerto ricans and so on. So, if u want to go scholarly, then raise your standards. U want MLA, then go elsewhere, this is a fly by the seat of your pants kinda affair, not the f ing CAA, for Chrissakes. U have to come here cinematically like the beginning of Platoon, b4 the regs march off into irrationality, each staff sarge jettisons all the government issue on the greens that is pretty worthless 4 real combat, and they certainly don't want the West Point grad 4 a lieutenant. So drop the pretentious academia, and deal w/ real people. Do u think artists r like the text in Art4m? Hardly, that language is still based on meta narratives long since abandoned, look at the dumb ass article by Hal Foster on Architecture trying to slip old mode of production back in w/o sex or body doubles, nobody cares anymore. Artists have moved on.
Why Jareth/somelik gets so bothered about issues of race is because he's so white, hence the famous Dockers campaign leveraged against him which was so effective, expandable waist panels and all. Try gender, he's even more incensed by vaginal puff. Ask him 2 xplain performativity.
somelikeit and all, u seem beleagured.
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word decay, simm99
by sim99, 02.09.06 09:03 pm
we don't care about our mother tongue or father tongue. Language is always fluxist; attempts to map scientifically have disappointed. And it's okay if it drifts, that's how new meanings occur. This is not a formal Journal, so spellcheck is not warranted.
somelike u quote me w/o permission.
du, - admit it you work at artforum or at least get into there dada base.
du is from duchance the invidual/(s) that have a personal problem with many of us on the board, - however express this at least in a simliar dialect
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I have stated b4 i paint 4 a living, i don't want anything 2du w/ art4m, too pedantic, and tangential. I certainly don't read it 4 fear my work would lose its uniqueness. dada (sic) base? I once explained how i doppelgangered here and no one would buy it, so screw it. But getting into art4m's data base would b illegal and i'm not losing a successful career 4 that bullshit. and i don't have personal probs when u r right. it's your inaccuracy w/ art stuff.
Whatta u mean on the board? what board?
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Re: Expandable Waste
by magicmarker, 02.09.06 09:41 pm
You should know Duddy.
I'm gonna go see Scientist...Happy Valentines Day y'all.
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Re: "An Image Bank for Everyday Revolutionary Life"
by somelikeithot, 02.09.06 10:08 pm
u know you wanta du it.
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Re: "An Image Bank for Everyday Revolutionary Life"
by Madhatter, 02.09.06 11:24 pm
I dont have time to read all the amazing commentary, but the topic at the top of the thread is pretty ill considered.
The reviewer was denigrating the "not Chicano enough" comment, so your antagonistic stance sim99, is ill phrased, if not ill considered.
Your idea of a more regional art is more interesting. Its one that thas been "voiced" as you say, by many - couched by many in terms of the transnational flavor of art fairs vs. the more quaint regionalism of say, the Quilts of gees Bend or th individualism of henry Darger.
I dont buy it really. I'm not a modernist who fetishizes a non-local omniscient art that seeks to subsume man in some hive-minded group think. On the other I am not in favor of isolationist retreats to the fabled innocent realm of a St. Helena or an art of sublimated and thus harmless sexual predation.
What we are really talking about is a resistance to the banality of homogenous culture - of a sameness that makes everyone nod off in a sated torpor - much like the one I have after consuming a pound of pasta infused with egg cream garlick and onion. Must I be Italian to appreciate the satiety this engenders? The thrift this embodies? Must I worry that I'm not getting any vitamins? Who cares? We all die in the end anyway.
On second thought populism seems preferential to a banality of "difference" that you , Simm99, represent. Its the kind of knee jerk liberalism that consevatives thrived on lampooning - all the way to the white house, I could argue.
Anyways, without our off-topic ramblings there woulnt be a discussion. Maybe we destroyed it. I'd like to think I'm on the side of a more inclusive, rigourous and happier discourse than the one we are treated too in the current Schaudenfreud. Shibboleths don't make the argument anymore true, do they? In the same way, an idea need not be bolstered by an appeal to historical precedent or authority figure. With respect to history, I ask you, what does it mean to be Chicano now, where Chicano is just one voice in a community of difference?
Make a run for the border, you're in Flatland, brother.
Now wasnt that boring? I'ts not a way of writing that I aspire too, too pedantic and self important.
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Re: "An Image Bank for Everyday Revolutionary Life"
by somelikeithot, 02.09.06 11:46 pm
Don't use a big word where a diminutive one will suffice.
— Unknown
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I know how you feel I've been there myself It's what the devil my fare
by somelikeithot, 02.09.06 11:56 pm
Image Bank Indeed....
amazing how this is a static board... yet used in reel time!
The fault was all mine
I don't blame you if you blame me
I know I was wrong
I just cannot contain this
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Re: "An Image Bank for Everyday Revolutionary Life"
by Madhatter, 02.10.06 12:16 am
And sim, i think Greil Marcus has something to sayu about music - and so does the NYT magazine this sunday past - look it up and hold that pose while I anihilate you with your own self importance.
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Re: "An Image Bank for Everyday Revolutionary Life"
by nunculusJbrown, 02.10.06 03:08 am
"Cyber-squatting"? There's no need for it. There's this little thing you may have heard of...IT'S CALLED MYSPACE!
If you have a homeless beard, a Napoleon Dynamite brown suit and a pair of yellow Converses, it's the place to go to print out things like:
lukin 4 mor warholian frib-frab 2 make it feel mor diverser.
2 4 1 spark plugs honk honk bollweevil jif-y lube 69 for the weet-weet catilitic converter on my 82 shevvie mondy carlo operaters standin by no credit required.
Are ya feelin' me, daddy-o?
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Re: "An Image Bank for Everyday Revolutionary Life"
by Madhatter, 02.10.06 07:32 am
if you mean by "feeling" you mean get rid of the "squares" and by "cybersquatting" if you mean "free parking" then I "dig"
Artforum's a brand, man, and the man has it.
Apparently.
Can you buy it?
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snap.
by somelikeithot, 02.10.06 07:42 am
waiting to be taken over by riviting essays.
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"An Image Bank for Everyday Revolutionary Life"
by somelikeithot, 02.10.06 08:13 am
"An Image Bank for Everyday Revolutionary Life"
you have to admit that is an ironic title. for this topic. look we all read, Challenging Art: Artforum 1962-1974 and book after book.. and then we look. and go. go to as many musuem shows as possible and openings, read as many mags. as we can get time to and think where do we fit into all this, very staged very structured "exclusive" system.
all lost in the super market.
fact of the matter is unless you forge something new no where.
man.
but when the proff. said one of you out of every one in this room will be making work in 5 yrs.
thats us.
stop attacking us and we will not talk about our selves but rather the shows and ur articles. - .but you can't expect us to stop studying the system.
i am not 22 and i am not looking for a rose garden.
revolution
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Re: "An Image Bank for Everyday Revolutionary Life"
by Madhatter, 02.10.06 09:49 am
i respect street smarts soul money business and art.
not political correctness and text book smarts and aquired skills..
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this from the shutter bug that drones on about his 'state of the art' lab like the photographer that has all the latest lens but can't make an interesting image to save his life. What u don't get is your lack of acquired skill, u so disdainfully admonish, comes off as ignorance. the reason u don't blong here is u can't get out of just working in a lab cause u have no acquired skills. Imagine a boxer not training to move his/her head, u'd b lunchmeat flat on your back in no time, kinda like somelike/zip/Jareth 'banalities'. face it, the condensension that culture is this homogenous can of Crisco is so warhol old.
and Greil Marcus, whoever the clown was above who avowed 'Rolling Stone' approved marcus what a crock of corporate sacharrin. This is the same man sid blew away w/ his Vox and Kobain made a point of throwing up on.
Finally, somelikeithot, how u b so 'streetsmart' when u r so nicely protected in your ivory tower 'state of the art' lab and Talkback. U r never on 'the street', wherever that is. Typical white male middle class swaddled racist, doesn't want any friction to what they perceive as right, so female issues, no diaspora, no identity, just all mens' club. sounds like Bush 2me. I love the conflation above of appreciating Italian food to understanding being marginalized because of race. More like your streetsmarts is your foot in your big banal mouth.
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Re: "An Image Bank for Everyday Revolutionary Life"
by somelikeithot, 02.10.06 10:10 am
it is intresting however that a female, is able to be constanlly refered to us as a member of the 'boys' club.
you can't even tell who this is, like you know my background - remember when all i got was this drug problem, table waiting job and mfa.
don't tell me about where ive been.
y don't you talk about some artforum articles or shows. no one is stopping you.
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Cabinet Magazine
by Sodoma, 02.10.06 11:03 am
A recent article in Cabinet Magazine caught my eye. It was about the failure of the revolutionary meme to perpetuate itself in cabinetry.
What's afflicting the world of cabinetry, though, isn't a lack of fervor or a lack of money, but a lack of talent.
I fear the market for cutting edge cabinetry is about to suffer a crash.
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Un Hinged.
by Amanda Drednaught, 02.10.06 11:24 am
I can't decide if the penny loafers look better with or without a penny in them.
I've seen them with nickles in them but, I never understood that. Still don't.
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Re: "An Image Bank for Everyday Revolutionary Life"
by Madhatter, 02.10.06 11:31 am
I like pieces of eight in my loafs. Just saying.
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Notice how somelikethis avoids the streetsmart vs state of the art lab charge
by Madhatter, 02.10.06 12:01 pm
Oh, paleeeeeezzzzzz, sleeze; your self annointed priviledging and attempt to dominate w/ google copy, more at what u won't talk about reveals your gender bias. Please let's not get coy boy.
No one want essays here dufus, we do want informed talkback, not your 'streetsmarts', that cliche is so cliche.
Art is an acquired skill u ninny, u r kinda the only one lost in the power to the people male fanta$y. On the other hand lets go the other way, r u saying that all art should b outsider art?
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hot for teacher.
by somelikeithot, 02.10.06 12:45 pm
all art should b outsider art?
- intresting in these days when outsider art is so much a part of the establishment,
what is the definition of outsider art these days?
is any artist at the cutting edge in a sense an outsider artist, - no matter how educated.
achedemic art is a acquired skill. insider art perhaps.
hunny, - smart enough to not be on the steets, i was of course reefering more to the fact that i got my education crashing partys, openings and hanging out in back rooms and bedrooms then in a desk...
a buddy of mine refers to this board as a great example of the Artworld which he sees as a small group of people standing around drinking wine fighting about how they agree...
Letting the days go by/let the water hold me down
Letting the days go by/water flowing underground
Into the blue again/after the money's gone
Once in a lifetime/water flowing underground.
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more @ psycho killer, qu'est-ce que c'est ...
by sim99, 02.10.06 01:13 pm
a buddy of mine
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now there's a male phrasing. i can figure your male algebra by the language. Now what makes u assume, as u said above, that i'm a female? cause i told u? again the focus of some is on masculinist females and feminine/feminists males. Since, however, u won't avail your self of growing interest in gender studies, u remain the old 'buddy' watching the Man show w/ bouncing boobs.
Outsider art as a term has a lot of problems along w/ naieve, folk, visionary, self taught, et alia, this is an old issue. since u know nothing, u keep going over chewed gum.
the reason it's difficult to keep a line of reasoning here since u keep disrupting w/ the innocuous trite lines and horribly bad poetry. We don't want whatever u can cut and paste from google, so stop it. or go to your stupid blog and masturbate there w/ your 'buddy'.
U know u reference what we use 2 call in art school the Van Gogh syndrom. these were Nuge type guys w/ beer guts and bush hats that thought art was just something u did w/o reflection. And they worked 50 hrs at a garage, factory or state of the art video lab cause that made a man. And they r still working 50 hours @ the state of the art video lab. So take the lack of insight or erudition and move on.
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Re: "An Image Bank for Everyday Revolutionary Life"
by magicmarker, 02.10.06 01:48 pm
HA, she didnt fall into your outsider art trap. HA. Keep tryin...idiot.
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what u going to du to stop my disco baby.
by somelikeithot, 02.10.06 02:05 pm
who said your a 'woman'? we call u it - remember? and did so at our own square table last night.
lets talk more about outsider art, - pop appropriation? is picasso our daddy?
who the hell is 'we' who 'don't want' anyways... go back to sleazing on open studios and ripping off good hearted rich kids and turning them out. your right. were not going anywhere. pretty pleased with ourselves.
how ya doin beep beep beep here comes the bitter train.
if you hate us so much stop engaging us and WRITE SOMETHING INTERESTING TO SHOW HOW 'DUMB' we are
if you use any form of instant messanging program, you would understand the links and so forth as a form of conversation.
i am sure before the next 50 yrs some where out there we will find a dealer who gets u$, and get$ what we can do. It just doesn't keep me up at night worrying, I have seen the best of my generation go down in cannon fodder all ready.
the kids are alright.
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Re: "An Image Bank for Everyday Revolutionary Life"
by somelikeithot, 02.10.06 02:06 pm
i can figure your male algebra?
wtf does that mean? strap ons count?
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Re: "An Image Bank for Everyday Revolutionary Life"
by somelikeithot, 02.10.06 04:10 pm
tgif.
bye du. it has been a fun few days of what can be posted and what can't - this has def. left the 'fun zone'.
I personally award u ur space. i promise i won't post for one month do date. so - march 10th, - see where it goes.
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Do be a crack seller. Don't be a crack user.
by Amanda Drednaught, 02.10.06 05:24 pm
no need for the drama(min)
where have all the flowers gone?
It's your birthday and I see...Zip and I see Jabba mcmanboobs (Joseph Franklyn McElroy) and I see Welchsonnyo and I see Poopchute and I see gradstudent and mmmutt and coco chanel and I see kitty king and alligotwasthislousy and brent of course, thingsthatgo (bump in the night?). and I see tagent and snowdingo and cutup. and I see BPrevidi and maxherman, oy, genius 2000.
and i see demdee and jareth and penelopy and ubercunt and montecore and blood on the stage. I see duchance and wendy and george w bush. I see sybil and candy wrapper and crash and honey whitlock and rockhudson and magdalene and kettle black and my father and jackieou and (all other retards) and and and and well it's too bad that so many have been lopped off. used to fun around here. might still be. poopchute, ha.
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Re: "An Image Bank for Everyday Revolutionary Life"
by Madhatter, 02.11.06 04:07 am
ppopsie, j edgar cohn..i mean I hope no one feels left out here....
I told you
That we could fly
'Cause we all have wings
But some of us don't know why
vanvogt.www4.mmedia.is/images/large/darkness_ace_1972_schoenherr_large.jpg
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Re: "An Image Bank for Everyday Revolutionary Life"
by nunculusJbrown, 02.11.06 10:29 pm
I love the guy who talked about "fluxus" and "letting [language] drift"...as if using the inane abbreviations of Instant Messaging somehow constituted some sort of dada performance event.
Get it right for the umpteenth time, recent-MFA fuckwits: lazy, talentless doodling does not equal "dadaist"/"surrealist"/"situationist"/"deconstructionist" action. It just means you're a dilettante.
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Re: "An Image Bank for Everyday Revolutionary Life"
by penelope, 02.11.06 10:53 pm
radio raheem?
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Re: "An Image Bank for Everyday Revolutionary Life"
by Madhatter, 02.12.06 12:12 am
I'm tempted to post the pic of the dude stretching his rectum sphincter in some obscene fashion, but words are more powerfull, in a way, aren't they? Notice I did not use any swear words. Those were the days.
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Re: "An Image Bank for Everyday Revolutionary Life"
by thingsthatgo, 02.12.06 08:03 am
Things hasn't dropped off!, piffling
holding up a half severed leg.
Remember rime is not limner:)
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Re: "An Image Bank for Everyday Revolutionary Life"
by Madhatter, 02.12.06 11:05 am
paizo.com/image/product/catalog/IMPTYV/IMPTYVMP009_360.jpeg
"The radio is not talking to you."
I don't understand what that means. Is it that sort of schizophrenic thing where I listen to the latin station and get a salsa beat or meringue or whatever and then I change the station and I get the working mans metal? Or Again and I'm into a sythesized beat and I'm thinking corporate or also, the working man's beat, and then I'm into some other flavor.
Well I saw Latino Metalheads (because metal is USA? I dont think so...) and then they got written up like some kind of movement and I ws wondering if they were Chicano? I guess the meaning of Chicano drifts and is fluid and stuff. Thats why I eschew such labels, where possible.
What remains is a sensibility... one that perhaps is bigger than even Daniel Buren...an readymade institutional critique. SO what one could say is that "the show was not critical enough," or "the criticality was lost in the clouds of identity," or something poetic like that.
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Dear Nonclulessjbrown
by somelikeithot, 02.12.06 11:41 am
What i wrote was:
"Language is always fluxist; attempts to map scientifically have disappointed. And it's okay if it drifts, that's how new meanings occur.
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I don't know y u conclude dada performance (again,if u knew what u were talking about u would say a Hugo Ball Karavane, Huelsenbeck drumming, Hausmans sound poems, Shwitters Anne Blume, Tzara's cut up poetry, Russian Zaum, EntreAct, Richter, etc., but i realize this is amateur hour). I'm simply reiterating a position held by standard linguist texts, have zip Google it, which maintains that all languages change unconsciously w/o anyone person attempting to guide the change. This refers to spoken dialect, though i'm guessing the written text works the same. Stylisitc drift is part of art history/anthropology study of serial works such as pottery, tapestries, sarcophogi, etc. Starts w/ Kubler's shape of time.
If u have another model for language change I'd love to hear it, but dada performance? isn't that a bit much?
And don't worry somelike it hot, while u r gone, i'll put in a few lines in your name, being a doppelganger and all (that was your big arty word, by the way). Y not take the handle SomelikeitGONE.
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Re: Deck Chairs, rearanging; the Titanic as a scale model.
by Madhatter, 02.12.06 12:11 pm
Frege's philosophy of language
Modern philosophy of language began with Gottlob Frege's essay Ueber Sinn und Bedeutung (now usually translated as On Sense and Reference). Frege noted that names present several problems with respect to meaning. Suppose, as one might casually say, the meaning of a name is the thing it refers to. Sam, then, means Sam. But what if the objects referred to by the name does not exist? Is Pegasus, then, meaningless? Clearly not.
The drift of speech changes dialects and in long terms, it generates new languages. Although you can think, these changes have no direction, in general they have. For example, in the English language, there was the Great Vowel Shift. In future, there may be also new English dialects. Source: "Language An Introduction to Speech", by Edward Sapir
You can?t patent ideas, such as logarithms, but you can get a patent on a slide rule, which is a material embodiment of them. My first patent was filed in October 1976, but not granted until June 1981. It was a long and torturous process. You have no idea!
Was it worth all the trouble?
SZ: Absolutely. The specification included in each patent notes that my models are an ?introduction to the crystallography of logic.? For me this was the first time that this expression has been used in print. This links logic to its deep roots in symmetry.
Ferdinand de Saussure described language in terms of signs, which he in turn divided into signifieds and signifiers. The signifier is the sound of the linguistic object (like Socrates, Saussure didn't much concern himself with the written word). The signified, on the other hand, is the mental construction or image associated with the sound. The sign, then, is essentially the relationship between the two. Signs themselves exist only in opposition to other signs, which means that bat has meaning only because it is not cat or rat or hat.
Wittgenstein describes language as a game in which words may be used in a multiplicity of ways: for example, to describe things, to ask questions, to report events, to speculate about events, to make requests, to give commands, to form hypotheses, to solve problems, and to perform other acts of communication.
When an object is signified that object becomes the sign of its signification.
And so on and so forth, said Humpty Dumpty.
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Re: "Why not just put the Midrash down?"
by Madhatter, 02.12.06 12:46 pm
"Like a novel, an opera or a ballet, myth is make-believe; it is a game that transfigures our fragmented, tragic world, and helps us to glimpse new possibilities by asking ‘what if?'" A myth is powerful for precisely the same qualities that a literal reader might deride—there are knots and holes in the story, and the meanings are unfixed. In other words, it predicates its own retelling.
Myth is a metalanguage; a language about language and about unspoken communication. In advertising myth can be a system of symbols in which the original, or first order meaning, is taken out of context and used to produce a second order of meaning, often in relation to the advertised product. The creation of myth via advertising is also about the manipulation of language and meaning. The construction of second-order signifiers robs one system of meaning to serve another. This is the heart of most modern advertising - and it may be a force which contributes to postmodern culture.
If you are skeptical about this, consider the Calumet baking powder cans with their Indian chief logo that Kubrick placed carefully in the two food-locker scenes. (A calumet is a peace pipe.) Consider the Indian motifs that decorate the hotel, and the way they serve as background in many of the key scenes. Consider the insertion of two lines, early in the film, describing how the hotel was built on an Indian burial ground. These are "confirmers" such as puzzle-makers often use to tell you you're on the right track.The Shining is also explicitly about America's general inability to admit to the gravity of the genocide of the Indians - or, more exactly, its ability to "overlook" that genocide. Not only is the site called the Overlook Hotel with its Overlook Maze, but one of the key scenes takes place at the July 4th Ball. That date, too, has particular relevance to American Indians. That's why Kubrick made a movie in which the American audience sees signs of Indians in almost every frame, yet never really sees what the movie's about. The film's very relationship to its audience is thus part of the mirror that this movie full of mirrors holds up to the nature of its audience.
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Re: "An Image Bank for Everyday Revolutionary Life"
by magicmarker, 02.12.06 02:06 pm
open the refrigerator
the light goes on
turn the key
the truck starts
draw to a flush
the card you need
caress her nipples
they rise to the touch
pen to paper
there's the word
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Re: "An Image Bank for Everyday Revolutionary Life"
by Madhatter, 02.12.06 09:46 pm
myspace-581.vo.llnwd.net/00250/18/50/250090581_l.jpg
Caption:
"sir..i will protect your daughter,sister,mother..."
Made me laugh.
I want your poetry collection.
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It's better when you hear him sing it
by magicmarker, 02.12.06 10:18 pm
His father was a drinker
And his mother cried in bed
Folding John Wayne's T-shirts
When the swingset hit his head
The neighbors they adored him
For his humor and his conversation
Look underneath the house there
Find the few living things
Rotting fast in their sleep of the dead
Twenty-seven people, even more
They were boys with their cars, summer jobs
Oh my God
Are you one of them?
He dressed up like a clown for them
With his face paint white and red
And on his best behavior
In a dark room on the bed he kissed them all
He'd kill ten thousand people
With a sleight of his hand
Running far, running fast to the dead
He took of all their clothes for them
He put a cloth on their lips
Quiet hands, quiet kiss
On the mouth
And in my best behavior
I am really just like him
Look beneath the floorboards
For the secrets I have hid
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Re: "An Image Bank for Everyday Revolutionary Life"
by Madhatter, 02.13.06 12:06 am
outsideman.com/images/f_hope.htm
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madhatter's googling
by magicmarker, 02.13.06 09:20 am
Your account of 20 C. language: Frege's problem involved the morning star/evening star prob. of Venus; U don't even bother to mention Russel's famous Present King of France; and Witt. has two philosophy's, one more like the scientizing logical positivism of russell/frege; the other his famous family resemblences. Like I said earlier Amateur Hour. And w/ Witt.'s linguistic behaviorism things like a signified (saus) qua mental construct is old oatmeal. No one blieves in mental constructs anymore other than fictively.
Myth is a metalanguage; a language about language and about unspoken communication.
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not really, more like a community language since it's unfolding takes place just like everday language w/ reference. a meta is more like what Frege/logical positivism attempted to construct, a logarithmic notation which could describe all actions of language. Scientizing still has its advocates, but has diminished results. Moreover no one can agree on any one metalanguages legitimacy over another.
Y do u morons assume Google is right? Moreover it still says nothing about language change or drift. One, manifestation is simple vocabulary, lexicons differ in time; two, passivation is on the decline in american english along w/ the rise of prepositional terminals, like 'that's who he went with.' The claim that this is guided is one thing, being rule governed quite another. I would appropriate Google like Steinbach did the lava lamp or koons the puppy, kitch myth. It speaks to its own tackiness.
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In advertising myth can be a system of symbols in which the original, or first order meaning, is taken out of context and used to produce a second order of meaning, ...
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Now that sounds like a pretty good def. of art
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The problem is not language anymore
by magicmarker, 02.13.06 09:34 am
The problem is artists seem more interested in acting like ad firms than artists who labored for the sake of overarching principles like marxism, the unconscious, religion, etc. Now it's cash n' carry or 'debit or credit'. I'm not saying that's bad, i'm getting more to how art like language drifts to unguided interests. and this is not new; the life of Caravaggio is full of money interests, Picasso as well. whereas, your working class pollocks, dekoonings were not. In between u have your Frankenthalers 'from wealth', w/ Dali and Warhol parodying the whole affair all the way to the bank.
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Re: "An Image Bank for Everyday Revolutionary Life"
by Madhatter, 02.13.06 11:02 am
that all languages change unconsciously w/o anyone person attempting to guide the change. "
you know du, its not any more complicated than signal to noise really, vis avis ave maria - Claude Shannon, who' s heat metaphor predates the contagious meme (wheres the medium in this metaphor) and which I find a bit less perky pop psych layout.
Polysemy is more interesting to me - that you obliquely mention by way of logicians, but which I find in poetry and simple excluded muddles.
As I qouted above there was a guy creating a visual model for numbers, trying to reveal the implicate order of the mathematic system, which he knew revealed a physical truth about the universe, which looked suspiciously like some form of the Kabbalah which is another MANIFESTATION of the same metapohorical build of the meta-narrative, at least in my mind. Just saying.
Bookforum seems to be edited largely around the theme of myth, as well, (I pulled some quotes from there) and I'm down witht he idea of midrashic hermenutics, whcih I hope you will fill me in on, because they didn't have a class on that at the old alma matter. AND I NEVER WENT TO SUNDAY SCHOOL.
tell me a story brah, I'm going to get a donut and get to work.
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Re: "An Image Bank for Everyday Revolutionary Life"
by Madhatter, 02.13.06 11:15 am
ANd uh, the very namb-pambyness of OUR meanderings - the surfacey saucy slippery slimy nature of the rhizomatic shallowness - its the antidote for the amphisboena, and indeed the dawning of the age of aquarius. The year of the dog. The eschatology of the eschaton.
Hail Dagon!
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take an umber
by Amanda Drednaught, 02.13.06 12:33 pm
truthiness spoken here
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dunno mad
by Amanda Drednaught, 02.13.06 12:47 pm
Duchmp had a pretty hard time finding anything that was a noise, and didn't think he ever did w/ the possible exception of dog's comb.
But u r getting too general w/ signal vs. noise, how is that pertinent to a painter today? What is visual noise to repubblecans is polysemy to Jerry saltz or a hal foster or roberta berta? r u saying context makes meaning and intrinsic value of a motif diminishes?
My money is on both. as Kurdt use to say: start at once but not together.
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Re: "An Image Bank for Everyday Revolutionary Life"
by magicmarker, 02.13.06 02:42 pm
www.telusplanet.net/public/insureme/proofs/charity/Charity%206%20x%206.jpg
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Re: "An Image Bank for Everyday Revolutionary Life"
by Madhatter, 02.13.06 08:16 pm
www.rapidnewswire.com/atom/atom2.jpg
Signal or noise?
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Re: "An Image Bank for Everyday Revolutionary Life"
by nunculusJbrown, 02.13.06 08:50 pm
Madhatter, are you high? Do you think the silly, trivial dribbles posted on this site constitute some sort of "reworking of language"? Surely even a green youth can't be that megalomaniacal. And don't lecture me about Tristan Tzara. That was my senior thesis, okay? I can out-Gas Heart you any day of the week.
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Re: "blind I to that"
by thingsthatgo, 02.13.06 09:18 pm
You have to have both feet firmly on the ground before you climb , less it (the ladder) rises out of the sea. How could that be.
In Japan we have a barbie doll. A friend, who grew up in NYC was given one of these as a gift. The gift differed, was not in likeness of the original, and turned on the friend, then a young child. It was ugly in comparison to the real (she was told) for the pointy features, undulations, were all but flat.
The story didn't go anywhere, because as the friend pointed out, "I didn't really go for Barbie anyway".
The drift is reality is in the hands of the majority.
For some it's just a matter of manipulating that to get sound results.
U
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Yeah madhatter r u high?
by nunculusJbrown, 02.13.06 09:52 pm
Madhatter, are you high? Do you think the silly, trivial dribbles posted on this site constitute some sort of "reworking of language"?
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No silly senior (meaning high school or elderly?), by the drift of language we mean all the English spoken as well as written, a collective term, as when someone notices a grammatical rule that once governed american english collectively. another example would be how the 18th C. colonialist drifted from the so called mother tongue of England. Certainly motifs found in furniture did. And sure, any linguist will tell u every native speaker is wired collectively; so our drivel could be collected as linguistic data. Y is this so astonishing? did u do your senior thesis @ BYO U.?
. And don't lecture me about Tristan Tzara.
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I don't blieve i lectured u about Tzara, I just mentioned him in passing w/ the brown bag , cut up chance poems and Ball's Karavane. I have little interest in Zurich Dada and rich f—-s like Tzara, tea sipping old ladies was Heulsenbeck's farewell epitaph.
That was my senior thesis, okay?
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Gee, mom, senior thesis, that's like a whole 4-5 pages, double spaced even? I'm sure u broke new ground, if not wind. did u cover his relationship to Picasso? Y du u think Duchamp refused to show w/ him in the famous Pas de Balls, Tzara's ill fated pathetic attempt to commandeer dying Dada in Breton's/Picabia's Paris? Only stuffy Comp Lit Professors think Tzara.
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Mahhatter, r u high?
by nunculusJbrown, 02.13.06 09:54 pm
signal or noise, u wrote that above, I blieve as an example of your language model of significance?
What kind of chemicals u have anyway?
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Mapfatter, r u even high?
by nunculusJbrown, 02.13.06 09:59 pm
can u come over and get us high? Reading this nun occulisburntsienna is making my brain swell. Dark in here.
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Re: "An Image Bank for Everyday Revolutionary Life"
by Madhatter, 02.13.06 10:02 pm
Madhatter, are you high?
If you mean "high" as in "drugs fill the void," yes. But if you mean, "are you high," as in some schmuck who thinks "detail oriented" is something to sell a lecture on "obsessive"
"outsider" art, then no, decidedly not.
silly, trivial dribbles posted on this site constitute some sort of "reworking of language"? Surely even a green youth can't be that megalomaniacal.
meg·a·lo·ma·ni·a Pronunciation (mg-l-mn-, -mny)
n.
1. A psychopathological condition characterized by delusional fantasies of wealth, power, or omnipotence.
2. An obsession with grandiose or extravagant things or actions.
I wish.
Meaning is a function of memory, I think.
I can't remember. My grandma had alzheimers. I think she remembered she knew us. Or maybe it was jsut that we were friendly.
In conclusion,
namby-pamby.
pambly anmbyly
so yeah, Tzara got in to politics huh?
I lost my love of surrealism.
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Re: "An Image Bank for Everyday Revolutionary Life"
by Madhatter, 02.13.06 10:03 pm
Right now, this instant, no, I am not high. I did buy a red bull. Sort of beat if you inhale it.
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Re: "An Image Bank for Everyday Revolutionary Life"
by Madhatter, 02.13.06 10:07 pm
I wrote a paper on the ineffable once - five pages double spaced. I came to the conclusion that even nothing is something. Not very original, but then I got an A.
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Re: "A Programming Language for Everyday Revolutionary Life"
by Madhatter, 02.13.06 11:54 pm
Computer code is logical, if noisy. Things like semi-colons and hash marks - ascii symbols, are interpreted by the computer from "high level "php" to low level "machine language"
in essence machines are hard to "talk to" but they are totally no bullshit. That's sort of Warholian in a way is it not so?
So then these machines can be programmed to generate their own code - genetic algorythms are a patented process, and one that wo
Hats off to the Madhat
by nunculusJbrown (03.03.06 05:29 pm)
Madhatter, that was pretty clever. You really are a subverter after all!
Re: "An Image Bank for Everyday Revolutionary Life"
by magicmarker (03.03.06 06:19 pm)
well there's a reference to put on your resume
Re: "An Image Bank for Everyday Revolutionary Life"
by Madhatter (03.03.06 06:27 pm)
ya, and I got TB as a publication. Maybe I can call it an intervention or something.
I need a nap.