. . .the indians in New Mexico make art which can travel, the sand paintings . . . there was no need to preserve art, the same drawing was passed through the generations . . . and yet, each transient drawing was so permanent . . .

. . . when making rugs, I was more interested in . . . the obsessive, organized punching on the back of the rug and its gridded fabric.

. . . I am only interested in real, not illusionistic situations . . . even if they seem illogical the word abstract, applied to art, has no meaning for me . . .1“ long means 1” long . . . nothing is done arbitrarily, there is always