PRINT January 1971

A Conversation with Hans Hofmann

Kandinsky speaks of the nightmare of materialism in which man has been living and still lives, and he speaks of the crude emotions, like 1 fear, joy and grief, that belong to this materialist environment. The artist of the future, on a higher spiritual plane, according to Kandinsky, will not be concerned with these crudities, but will attempt to arouse more refined emotions. Do you agree with this evaluation of emotion? Are fear, joy and grief spiritual crudities? Do you, too, believe in the possibility, in some future time, of human beings having souls so spiritually refined that they will experience emotions we’ve never been aware of?1

Well, I will tell you, I have quite a different standpoint. in relationship to the whole thing. I believe in spirituality, yes, but I have to explain it in a very, very different way. First of all, what is spirituality? Geistigkeit—this a German Word; in,

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