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1000 WORDS: SANTIAGO SIERRA

Although he started out as a more or less traditional sculptor in an arte povera vein, Santiago Sierra is today best known for paying others to perform his pieces (he has paid people to sit in cardboard boxes, get tattoos, even masturbate on camera). Over the past three years, I have worked with Sierra several times—in Berlin, Munich, and New York. On each occasion we started out with the intention of restaging or, better, recontextualizing his 2000 work Lifted Out Wall Leaning Over by 60 Degrees and Held Up by 5 People, but the particularities of each venue ended up producing altogether different pieces. Lifted Out Wall was initially performed in Mexico City, Sierra's adoptive home. Five workers cut out a wall from floor to ceiling, extracted it from its original position, and held it at a sixty-degree angle. Each participant was paid 700 pesos (about $65) for their labor. During a

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