Stephen Willats talks with Cory Arcangel

CORY ARCANGEL: Can you press the video button so we can see you?

STEPHEN WILLATS: OK. Can you see me?

CA: No, I—yes. There you are. Oh, there is your studio. Oh, wonderful. There is your other computer. And tons of lamps.

SW: Yeah. You see, these English studios are very small. The book you’ve got, what book is that?

CA: Your new book, Artwork as Social Model; and I have a couple issues of your magazine, Control, which I had bought over the years. But before you started Control, in 1965, you had a moment when you realized that art was about the audience, about a new kind of “visual communication.” I wanted to talk about that.

SW: Well, in the late 1950s I was working in avant-garde galleries here in London, first at the Drian Gallery and later at New Vision Centre. The art world here was very conservative. And these galleries were showing mostly avant-garde European works; we had

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