Re:Very Selective Memories

by Kiss My Abstract (04.11.05 10:48 am)

Krauss = Serra
Greenberg = Olitski

Re: Selective Memories

by broken flower (04.12.05 04:24 pm)

I dont know nothin about theories, but I could make a painting about this:


Cauliflower velouté, curried oyster beignet
Ballotine of duck, pain d'epice & French beans
Seared spiced tuna, mooli & sesame


Red mullet bouillabaisse, squid & clams, fennel salad
Suprême of guinea fowl, pastilla of the leg, tarragon vinaigrette
Millefeuille of beef, wild mushrooms & red wine jus

Crème fraîche panna cotta, verbena jelly, raspberry compote
Ice cream & sorbet
Fromage fermier (3.50 supplement)
Affinés by Jacques Vernier “Maître fromager de France”

25.00 for 3 courses

Re: Selective Memories

by mountain lion (04.12.05 04:28 pm)

or a big hunk of
red meat
loads of
russets stacked
in a basket
and a
pound of butter
freshly placed on a
serving dish
and something
green besides

big brother is watchin out for you...

by Jareth (04.12.05 05:16 pm)
Blood of the Dragon
The Statement
Man on Fire

The Usual Suspects
12 Monkeys

are popular Hollywood DVD titles that have been professionally edited to remove nudity, sexual situations, offensive language, and graphic violence


leave our kids alone

by Jareth (04.12.05 06:14 pm)

What content do you edit out?

We edit out:

This includes the B-words, H-word when not referring to the place, D-word, S-
word, F-word, etc. It also includes references to deity (G-word and JC-words
etc.), only when these words are used in a non-religious context.

Graphic Violence
This does not mean all violence, only the graphic depictions of decapitation,
impalements, dismemberment, excessive blood, gore etc.

This refers to male and female front and back nudity.

Sexual Content
This includes language which refers to sexual activity or has sexual
connotation. It also includes visual content of a graphic or stimulating

Re: Selective Memories

by sharikov (04.12.05 09:02 pm)

jared you're such a hilarious idiot i'm tempted to make art about you - then you could go check out the ‘performative aspect’ of my opening! sorry i don't have anything to say other than my usual negative blah balsh abskdhasd
keep up the hilarious work art student jared!

Re: Selective Memories

by jackieou (04.13.05 12:58 am)

oh..yea...going places; memories; look - looping through n-lo again; the whole tracy pyramid/ pam thing is crashig down hard. Look...this is what seriouse satilight is all about; so...blow job queen - I live with it; daily painting at 12; oh gambling ring hookers: that suden moment when you imagine I am cathinking you “noigger-shit” (iI am a barbie doll) well...actually...yea..

hoit the road

Re: Selective Memories

by Jareth (04.13.05 01:12 am)

never said i was a thinker. ples. go a-head make rt about me-z all day, lots a people due. mummy said i could never keep me cloths on :)
it is true i like that space between people and Art.
objects alone never did it for me.
it is a oral narraitive.
u know?

Re: Selective Memories

by jackieou (04.13.05 02:45 am)

see...enui; be careful, or you'll be one of those high end interior decorators in sh-ho; the old story, a carefuly aranging the breakfast plates...and then -oops; forgot to turn the pilt on. snorrrrrrr.

Anyways, if you wanted to do a 90's going back in time thing you could blow these up and put em up; I'd have to kill you ofcourse; sort of came up somewhere else,,,so , could be apropriate in a day or two:

Lift my days, light up my nights

by Jareth (04.13.05 08:49 am)

not an instructor, always a student

You cannot create experience. You must undergo it.

o what a brave ..

by Jareth (04.13.05 10:11 am)

i like the idea of work which “challanges” the viewer, and askes them to ask questions, rather then simiply “please” or entertain... or perhaps decorate, like 90 % of the paper mache art in chealsea...

luckly however i have found this great new line of people who “clean” up dvd's so i can feel safe watching them... really you should look into this they don't mearly censor but rather completely re-edit the Directors intention.., creating whole new narratives!! and FINALLY FIlnally i found one that gets rid of that nasty homosexuallity... and god forbit, co-habitation

Female frontal and rear nudity, male lower frontal and rear nudity, sexual intercourse, heavy petting, groping, heavy passionate kissing between unwed couples, glamorized adultery, pornographic images including; magazine pictures, posters, portraits, drawings, painted bodies, some portrait paintings, some sculptures.

Inappropriate Dress
Extremely revealing clothing

Gratuitous Violence
Exploding body parts, dismembering, depictions of dismembered bodies, point-blank gunshots, excessive beatings, lethal instruments protruding from body, torture, rape scenes, excessive blood pooling, long exposure of corpses, close-up’s of bullet holes/gashes in the body, gruesome photos, depictions of children hangings.  (Please be aware that some war movies may still contain what some would consider extreme graphic violence.  An edited war movie is still a war movie and may be considered offensive.  Children portrayed in an evil or Satanic way, i.e. murderers, dark-sided, evil minded in a serious manner.

Innuendoes/Crude Humor
Sexual references, obscene hand gestures, flatulence, bodily functions, camera panning of privates (i.e. camera focusing in on a woman’s breasts) gross jokes, distasteful animal behavior (i.e. dog sniffing privates), perverted comments, racist or demoralizing humor

All major English swear words (H**, D*, B**, F*, etc.)
Inappropriate references to Deity, (i.e. Oh my G
*)  Keep in mind that words used correctly are not removed.  For example, “hell” is a place and thus if the phrase “burn in hell” is used, it may not be removed because “hell” is being used correctly and not profanely.  The word, “to damn” means to stop.  Damn is not taken out if used as “to be damned” or “you will be damned”.   Likewise, a “bastard” is an illegitimate child, thus when someone is referred to as a “bastard child” and they are indeed an illegitimate child, it is also being used correctly.
All of the above including slang terms such as, “Stupid”, “Butthead”, “Dork”

Non-Traditional Family Values
Homosexuality, perversions, cohabitation


Re: Selective Memories

by mountain lion (04.13.05 01:20 pm)

Mirror Girl is the only one
that is interesting to me.
THe other ones (later ones)
are interesting in some formal
aspects, but they seem more
like practice runs.
Get back to square one and
Feel the Power
Get into the Grove
Forget what you know- don't worry
it's not going anywhere and
in the words of the immortal
Brian Eno, “Just make stuff”

Re: Selective Memories “burn in hell”

by zipthwung (04.13.05 04:47 pm)

Sweet “Jesus.”

Re: Selective Memories

by jackieou (04.13.05 07:11 pm)

this was on craig but I don't have a highspeed conection..

I dunno:

thx for the Memories

by Jareth (04.13.05 09:26 pm)

You know someone said that the world's a stage
And each must play a part.
Fate had me playing in love you as my sweet heart.
Act one was when we met, I loved you at first glance
You read your line so cleverly and never missed a cue
Then came act two, you seemed to change and you acted strange
And why I'll never know.
Honey, you lied when you said you loved me
And I had no cause to doubt you.
But I'd rather go on hearing your lies
Than go on living without you.
Now the stage is bare and I'm standing there
With emptiness all around
And if you won't come back to me
Then make them bring the curtain down.

Re: Selective Memories

by zipthwung (04.13.05 10:09 pm)

Well there I was having a plate of lasagne and this dude comes in - all sweaty and hollow eyed. Asks for some bread. “Sorry I can't help you,” the guy at the counter syas. Please I'm hungry. No.
Can I have a spoon?
Guy walks out muttering ski masks.
Nothing, its just some people are mean. I ask you from the bottom of my heart for some bread.
“You're not hungry you're just cracked out.”

Then the door shuts.

Never ask for a plastic spoon.

Re: Jared Memories

by sharikov (04.13.05 10:43 pm)

ever try shutting your fucking mouth for half a minute? remember looking back at your high school pictures (not long for you at all i'm sure), and feeling embarrassed at how you looked, wondering how you could have thought that seemed cool at the time?
well imagine that seem model applies to the sort of thing you'd post on a public forum. guess what jared, it's happening to you right now. you're wearing checkered pants and buddy holly glasses right now, you have a they might be giants t shirt on your sad fucking cadaver right now - you're telling everyone how great jim dines paintings are right now. silence needs to be your best friend

douchebag carnival

by Jared (04.13.05 10:47 pm)

Re: Selective Memories

by zipthwung (04.13.05 10:56 pm)

Hey “willis” take a look at your own sweet self.

Danger will robinson, “danger.”

Takashi Murakami is the bright neon beachhead of the new Japanese. Get used to it.

Having absorbed American culture at the rate of a billion terrabytes a second, the Japanese are well into it.

My reccomendation is a strong BUY.

But not necessarily Manga or Hentai or even the tea ceremony, although its nice in that victorian kind of way - which incidentally is also hot. Why is that? Because it was allways so. Its just a good VALUE. What are your values shari baby?

I'm into layered carbon blades, ski masks and tent cities, off the top of my head.

it gets the hose

by Jareth (04.13.05 11:01 pm)

sorry watching tv, yes to the checked pants, - um totally off with the rest, lost my glasses at a party, please mail if you find.

so Art, hows that workign out for u ?

Re: Selective Memories

by myprettypony (04.13.05 11:10 pm)

i'm into drinking coffee, yoga, working in my studio, walking on the beach, reading and chatting about art, road trips and vegetarianism

Re: is NYC still looking inwards and licking its wounds

by epforbrush (04.13.05 11:13 pm)

or is it ready to get back into the game and play?

Re: Selective Memories

by Jareth (04.13.05 11:14 pm)

it never left.

Re: in that case

by epforbrush (04.13.05 11:21 pm)

is there room for one more?

by magdalene (04.13.05 11:22 pm)

little vacation.

Re: Epcott Center

by epforbrush (04.13.05 11:28 pm)

show and tell is fun

Re: Selective Memories

by magdalene (04.13.05 11:42 pm)

Epcott Center is very inspiring, love that sphere, and the plantermum like cieling, imagination pavilion was the best, still have a stuffed figment, (guess kodak maakes a great sponsor) and eggplant with marraccas from the food pavlion... and the theater that the seats woudl move and go into the prehsitoric world,

One little spark of inspiration,
Is at the heart of all creation.
Right at the start of everything that's new,
One little spark lights up for you.

Oh, hello there. So glad you could come along. I am the Dreamfinder. <laughs> Musical notes! What delightful melodies those will make. I love these flights of fancy. Searching the universe for sounds, colors, ideas—anything that sparks the imagination! A sunbeam! That's a good one. <laughs> Everything that I collect can inspire amazing and marvelous new ideas. And you never know what kind of figment you may come up with. <laughs> Here's my favorite!

Re: Selective Memories

by zip (04.14.05 12:04 am)

Epcott center is a tool of the Draconians.

Re: Selective Memories

by zip (04.14.05 12:07 am)

8. Wanting to find other psychic mediums who would be willing to donate their time helping assist with questions or past experiences to help me improve my skills thru email. I have been trying to find people that are psychic that are willing to volunteer their time, and have fun doing it by becoming penpals. I don't know of any friends or relatives that have the gift. Your help would be much appreciated! All inquiries WILL be kept confidential. P.S. This is NOT a sale ad or gimmick. Serious inquiries only!

Re: Selective Browsers

by epforbrush (04.14.05 12:36 am)

why do different browsers load content or web pages differently?

Re: Selective Memories

by penelope (04.14.05 12:41 am)

believe me, you really don't want to know

Re: Selective Memories

by magdalene (04.14.05 12:55 am)

The user’s computer system

The preferences the user has set

How the browser decides to interpret the page

Whether the browser supports the code used on the page

Bugs in the web browser

if it is text or graphic based,

= different interprition of fonts, stuff like that

Re: Frustrating Memories

by epforbrush (04.14.05 01:00 am)

this happened one other time when i was developing a webpage and the engineer kept saying it looks right to me and it was loading correctly at other site where i could view the webpage but on my computer at home it is buggy and not loading all of the images :(

Re: Selective Memories

by magdalene (04.14.05 01:02 am)

yup it helps to have all your friends be brillant techs, i was lucky enough rubbed off.

Re: peer group-

by epforbrush (04.14.05 01:07 am)

qu'est-ce que c'est?

Re: Selective Memories

by sharikov (04.14.05 01:08 am)

art, well it's working out real good actually, finally, after lots of hard work and impoverishment. thanks for asking. just bought a very nice house in a very nice secluded part of my country, with wild grouse in the back and a view of the mountains. my second wife is much more beautiful than my first. we had great sex today, all menstrual blood and clutching the side of the band. i still have crampy feelings in my hips. she has the body of a 17 year old girl and the brain of a demmi voghel. an overly flattering dealer told me my new work was like a ‘kick in the stomach’ today, so that felt good. yes, all in all it's everything i'd hoped it would be. actually it's exceeded my wildest dreams.
in terms of what my values are, i'm not sure. i know what i like and what i don't. i think murakami is very smart, but aesthetically his work, and the work of his whole coterie does absolutely nothing to me. i'm bored by it's sources and its manifestation. i prefer morandi over mr.

Re: Selective Memories

by zip (04.14.05 01:17 am)

There's a crazy sheep-herder hermit in mine. I drive my gold balls towards his cave.

Re: Selective Memories

by zip (04.14.05 01:27 am)

As P says, you don't reeely want to know.

Re: Mr Sandman

by epforbrush (04.14.05 01:27 am)

bring me a dream

Re: Erratum

by zip (04.14.05 01:28 am)

“Gold Balls” should read “Golf Balls”
I don't touch type. And I'm comfortable with the wife.

Re: Selective Memories

by zip (04.14.05 01:31 am)

Ok screw that,
I'm Kaw-thor- K'a of the Rip your fucking throat out tribe. Thats K'tka'tka-thor in my native toungue.

More on that later.

Re: Selective sharikovskisms

by Coxswain (04.14.05 01:32 am)

by Snowdingo, 05.04.02 10:28 am

Your “projects” are another proof that some galleries/museums in Europe and the USA are run by cretins ( for the benefit of idiots).
“Police scanner” ?! Who wants to listen to this ?
I mean are you completely sick and bored out of your brains ?
“Satellite Tracking” ? What a gigantic wank !
“Licence Plate Gallery” Wow , your “originality” is simply breathtaking...
All the rest is good for the half brain dead only...(perhaps because of that you are such a “hit”...).

Re: s'electives

by epforbrush (04.14.05 01:35 am)


Re: Selective Memories

by zip (04.14.05 01:55 am)

kawt'kaw kaw. k'aw. Kaw T'ka. k'a tka tka tka tka tka tka.

Holy Shit! It's Universal!

by Coxswain (04.14.05 02:04 am)

In Japanese:
kawt'kaw kaw. k'aw. Kaw T'ka. k'a tka tka tka tka tka tka.

In English:
Kawt'kaw kaw. k'aw. Kaw T'ka. k'a tka tka tka tka tka tka.

Ke: Kawkaw' a' awaka

by Kaw Thor (04.14.05 02:06 am)


Re: Selective Memories

by Kaw Thor (04.14.05 02:41 am)

I'm surprised that they haven't guessed by now, I realise that they are suspicious. They have even said that I'm “Too real!”, but they are under the belief that I am a mannequin, so they dismiss all the evidence to the contrary as everyone else is confirming that I am a mannequin, so I decide to continue.

Re: Selective Memories

by Kaw Thor (04.14.05 04:42 am)

Yes back in black is probably one of AC/DC's best ever cause of the great instrimental abilities of these great gods of rock although it was a tragedy that the first lead singer of AC/DC died by chocking on his own spew. But this new singer took over and the spirit of AC/DC lived on so try to listen to a bit of both singers cause they both are brilliant.

“This Web Site was created by students of the University of Southern California, participating in Gloria Orenstein's Ecofeminism Class. ”

“My name is Theresa, but people call me Tree. Perhaps that explains my affinity with these particular members of the flora kingdom. Or perhaps I am just a nut that has fallen out of the tree. In any case, I elected to scope the Internet for various web sites regarding Tree People, whose mission consists of restoring deforested areas with new sprouting foliage. I also researched Earthships, closely related to aiding the Tree People's mission in that these environmentally friendly abodes offer an opportunity to greatly reduce the number of trees needed for housing an ever-growing population, and could thus potentially reduce the amount of deforestation that so threatens our environment. ”


k'aw kaw who k'oolar kaw kaw?

Re: Selective Memories

by Kaw Thor (04.14.05 04:55 am)


Re: Selective Memories

by jackieou (04.14.05 05:26 am)

Yea yea yea - long distance chain saws this time - wow wow wow - at thios rate they're gonna let me have guns and npot one of those cheap shit 32s. Get a life jukie - face facts - you're movies suck.

anyways - maybe the other phill (hll ) is in trouble too: a seriouse motor car - I actualy

likethis stuff:

Re: Selective Browsers

by epforbrush (04.14.05 10:36 am)

yay- i have 20/20 vision and full web browser capacity this morning- not sure what, if anything i did except i dumped the cookies from my hard drive last night

Re: Selective Memories

by Jareth (04.14.05 10:38 am)

you prob. cleared ur cashe.

Re: Moderately sized Mama

by myprettypony (04.14.05 11:14 am)

just another brilliant tech

Re: Selective Memories

by broken flower (04.14.05 12:44 pm)

watched “revalations” last nite—unholy mess that was. made me want to take an aesthetic bath, watch “lost hiway” again or something.

i wanta rock...

by Jareth (04.14.05 03:00 pm)

try watching brits in the hamptons all morning...
can't wait till 5 it is dyn-o-mite outdoors.

Re: Elective Surgeries

by Kaw Thor (04.14.05 03:31 pm)

Arm Lift (Brachioplasty)

Blue Peel

$200-400 per area

Breast Augmentation

Breast Lift

Chin or Cheek Implants

Collagen Injection

Deep Chemical Peel


Eyelid Tuck (upper & lower)

Face Lift

Forehead Lift (Brow Lift)

Hair Removal (Laser)

Laser (Erbium)

Laser (CO2)

Lip Augmentation

Liposuction (1 area)

Liposuction (3 areas)

Liposuction (5 areas)

Medium Peel

Micro Peel

Nose Surgery

Pectoral Implants

Permanent Eyeliner

Permanent Lip Liner

Spider Vein Rx (Laser)

Spider Vein Rx (Sclero)

Tattoo Removal (Laser)

Tummy Tuck

Re: Selective Memories

by broken flower (04.14.05 03:49 pm)

Someone will start a VB thread im sure.

In the meantime here's my favorite part: Benefactor Erich Marx, who houses his collection at Hamburger Bahnhof, looked equally uncomfortable. “The women are not at all aesthetic,” he said, shifting in his tux. “It's not what I expected, and it's unsettling.”

It's fabulously unsettling-bet it's more of a kick in the stomach than shari. Women know what a kick in the stomach is all about!

Re: Selective Memories

by sharikov (04.14.05 03:54 pm)

but you assume i'm NOT a woman?

is it wrong to enjoy sex, financial security, and compliments?
i'm not foolish or young enough to assume that my work is good, interesting, valid, attractive, worth it's pricetag. none of that. i'm just glad i don't have to work for someone else. art is a con like any other. my dad went to jail for fraud, i went to the hortz' brunch with a wad in my pocket. none of it means anything. i used to be angry, full of ideas, intelligent, now i want to be happy, quiet, own some property, not have to worry.
is this bad?
i'm sorry

Re: Selective Memories

by Jareth (04.14.05 03:55 pm)

2hs 8mins... i feel a party nite cummin on

Wearing a face that she keeps in a jar by the door.
Who is it for?
All the lonely people, where do they all come from?
All the lonely people, where do they all belong?

Father MacKenzie
Writing the words of a sermon that no one will hear;
No one comes near.
Look at him working,
Nodding his socks in the night when there's nobody there.
What does he care?
All the lonely people, where do they all come from?
All the lonely people, where do they all belong?

Re: Selective Memories

by Jareth (04.14.05 03:56 pm)

its not bad, as a person.. it just prob. makes you a lame duck as an Artist.

Re: Selective Memories

by Kaw Thor (04.14.05 04:05 pm)

Fraud? Surely you're joking. Shifting in his tux, not at all what I expected. Did I shift right? Like the tux?

Re: Selective Memories

by Kaw Thor (04.14.05 04:05 pm)

Kaw. K'tka, ka. T'ka.

Re: Selective Memories

by sharikov (04.14.05 04:09 pm)

you keep reinforcing these assumptions i make about your age and tender romantic aspirations for art - you think anger and intelligence are the alchemic foundation of good art? that the desire to be happy and secure can only produce ‘lame duck’ art?
i don't know, peter doig makes pretty nice paintings. and a living.
look at brice mardens mid career switch to the rococo for refutation of your naive but endearing assumptions.
you're cute, but i imagine meagerly endowed.

Re: Some like it hot

by myprettypony (04.14.05 04:13 pm)

that's a good debate- when to throw yourself into the flames and when to retreat- probably depends on the individual but some like pollock or david smith or agnes martin or georgia o'keeffe made great art out of solitude whereas others made great art in the eye of the storm like de kooning or warhol or stieglitz

some like it when the heat is on.

by confusionIs nothing new (04.14.05 04:18 pm)

no, i am young(ish) i guess, endowed? endowed? with what? i am pretty happy right now pretty seemless between “work” “life” and “art”, — i would love to be more comfortable, trust me. but i think you do have to be willing to risk it all to make your work.

Re: Selective Memories

by sharikov (04.14.05 04:26 pm)

yeah, i ‘risked it all’ whatever that means, for a good part of my life - i hardly make viewer friendly work now, but once that ‘risking it all’ has gotten you where you need to be, you see something wrong with changing your goals, wanting your daughter to go to a private school, making inscrutable work just in order to remain punk rock. it's ridiculous. the only reason i can fathom for this ideology is that you, like far too many artists, have rich parents, and have never known what it's like to be absolutely poor, gathering cigarette butts from the library ashtray, going to a student dental clinic for relief. i'm tired of an art world dominated by the children of privileged white upper class americans. ‘risking it all’ doesn't make good art, desperation does.

Re: Selective Memories

by confusionIs nothing new (04.14.05 04:35 pm)

privalged? guess again.

Re: Selective Memories

by confusionIs nothing new (04.14.05 04:35 pm)

get a job.

Re: Selective Memories

by sharikov (04.14.05 05:06 pm)

my non-hodgkins lymphoma makes that difficult. not that im one to wear my afflictions on my sleeve, but you give me no choice. your comment reveals a lot about you, you represent an ignominious thread that exists currently in the art world, one of ugly neo-conservatism. get a job? what are you, my stepfather spitting at a beggar?
should i have gotten this job when i was 8? the poverty i describe was with me when i was born, not after i left art school.
between interrupting my fathers attacks on my mother and protecting my sister from various advances, trying to colour in a map of the appalachians for my geography assignment and goign to the volunteer head lice checkign nurse, you would also have liked me to be out working? get a job? how very victorian of you, after all, children are just shorter humans. suddenly everything about you jared, has come into sharp focus. do you say nigger in your head too? is that why you deride ‘commercial’ rap? you prefer the new folk-rap hiphop amalgam practiced by white and thankfully light skinned entertainers? kool moe dee, black as an egglplant, wanting gold chains and a mansion, that's commercial? but middle class white kids rapping obliquely about bush, that's non-commercial? you're the worst kind of conserative racist, masquerading as a video artist in NY. the greatest city in the world, as long as the negroes are working at the ticket desk at the MOMA, not inside

Re: Selective Memories

by sharikov (04.14.05 05:09 pm)

try formulating a post longer than four lines, or can you only manage that with tired ass song lyrics and links?
get a job. you might not be privileged in your mind, but there can now be absolutely no doubt about one thing. you're white. guess what jared, some people are born into poverty, a job doesn't change the fact that they're members of a lumpen class unlike anything seen for 1400 years

Re: Selective Memories

by jackieou (04.14.05 05:14 pm)

Once again; different art world; different designe studios; different concepts of moral philosophy; different colours, different religions or lack of same; and different ways of intigrating these dicotomies; economics; basicaly, not to brag, but I can rin the old bobmobile right through ighj finance to the dead pope. Honest - 20 pages, looks nice: a B/B+ because I wore the wrong socks. Wow - egomania, a dick in your mouth and a cn bitch and sports betting ...vinas da milo...da....

Same listing for two days: once again, hey're all dead:

Re: Selective Memories

by confusionIs nothing new (04.14.05 05:17 pm)

is that you du chance?
no sorry ur right, i don't know what it is like to be black, however alot of people i work with do, and friends in chealea, i do know what it is like to be the only white person on the block whoever, and to not be able to speak spanish, further i am not going to go there with issues i have faced in child hood and beyond to get to this point, because it doesn't make my Art better that i had to over come things. everyone does.
do you make good art? that is all i care about save your victum mentality for someone who gives a rats ass... i have a personal bet with myself that talent and comunication skills are your real problems.

Re: Selective Memories

by sharikov (04.14.05 05:36 pm)

you have black friends? i think i heard david duke say that.
do you not even realize how that sounds?
you poor baby, the only cracker on your block ? you must be scaaaaaaaared.
victim mentality, not at all. i simply mention these things in response to your morton downey jr admonition that i get a job. as far as talent and communication skills, i have a surfeit of either, which i used to buy this beautiful house i mentioned. i have nothing to prove, especially to you. i'm doing real good, i will continue to do so. what will you do?

Re: Selective Memories

by Jareth (04.14.05 05:54 pm)

yawn. thats right it is u. i will now end this useless conversation i thought you were done with this place anyways you aspireing no name brand piece of trash cunt.

Here we go again.

by oops ment (04.14.05 06:18 pm)

Have at it.

Re: oops meant

by epforbrush (04.14.05 07:28 pm)

there but for the grace of god go i

Re: Selective Memories

by jackieou (04.14.05 07:28 pm)

thank you - not even a segway:

Body to Body < iribarne > 04/14 14:42:32

Body to Body

Your touch stimulates
sensations rushing
through my body.

Spine starts to tingle
as the blood begins
to boil and pump.

My body sticks against
yours-never want
to leave its presence.

Body wants to be:
shaded by your body
caressed by your hands immersed by your soul.

Want to be with you
when you are not with me
want you to be in me
want you to feel me
when I feel you.

My everything is your everything.

By David Iribarne
Copyright 2005

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Re: Selective Memories

by sharikov (04.14.05 11:38 pm)

i have no idea who duchance is, or to what you're referring, but i seen you've found another exit from defending your idiocy. cunt? so you're a racist and a violent mysogynist as well? you're friends are a lucky bunch.

Duh-duh, Duh-duh, Duh-duh, Duh-duh...

by Coxswain (04.15.05 12:10 am)

we're gonna need a bigger boat

Re: Selective Memories

by penelope (04.15.05 01:37 am)

That man can fish!

Re: Selective Selections

by Coxswain (04.15.05 02:06 am)

a fish in water
believes in limbs to be dry
caught cleaned cooked eaten

Re: Selective Memories

by penelope (04.15.05 02:20 am)

Nobly, the great priest
deposits his daily stool
in bleak winter fields

must be friday food

by Coxswain (04.15.05 02:26 am)

transubstantialized on saturday

Re: Selective Haiku

by penelope (04.15.05 02:29 am)

Not cherry blossoms
but peach blossom sweetness
surrounds this little house

Re: cant stop-they're like potato chips

by penelope (04.15.05 02:45 am)

How reluctantly
the bee emerges from the deep
within the peony

Re: Selective Memories

by jackieou (04.15.05 04:46 am)

this is what you get today (honest - decimal points can be your firend : a tip of the hat from THE BUNNY - your SI tip for the day):

Re: Selective Memories

by magdalene (04.15.05 06:01 am)

ooops ment,
sorry your another boring “black” “women”?
it always suprises me. you know? women, and the internet?? sorry i always assosiate being able to use a comptuer as a male thing. ko i got some niggers to beat, see ya.

Re: Selective Memories

(04.15.05 06:20 am)

I can't remember .

Re: Selective Memories

by jackieou (04.15.05 03:35 pm)

Jesus god, sand they had some wierd flip wilson on the am radio in the corner market just the other day - perhaps it works; my plan, if they hadn't thrown me out of ny, was to be at the mars in a nice black drss, heals, and a 45; one of those cocain carnival: red rubber and the same 45 - do like all 13 gay alience twits in one rotation - oit has been done (I avoid hookers, hang out with prostitutes...and that's why0 I'm like...really fucked up.

ok - really nice example: camus death car:

marl1 alpine - like you see only the top aound the seating in To Catch a Theif:


by hotgradstudent (04.15.05 04:18 pm)

scuses if someone has raised this already but I think ole Krausses' war with Harrison,Wood and Art and Language and Art in Theorymight have something to do with this book.
Ole Kraussey trying to steal back a bot of thunder.........
& O god? Is she sooo candid and soo bitchy?


The Sharikov/Jared Bout

by Jared (04.15.05 05:33 pm)

Lightweight match 4 2 or 3 rounds if jareds flabby thighs can hold him. C u r white.

Just so u know Jarring, i have been in Florida, schmoozing w/ sea turtles at night on the white sands. Painters gone Wild or Fauves. Been off line for weeks, taxes du and w/ all the dedections 4 studio mileage supplies dinners schedule C, profit worksheet, depreciation (yes u can deduct the depree of your brushes, but not the cans of paint.)

Usual art history test: 20 pts. Essay.
Describe the relevance of the titile Fauves to the movement known as Fauvism. Whence its provenance?

I went away 4 a long while since u people r like Frictionless Sex or Jared. anyway, sharikov has my vinegar but lacks the brains and painting knowledge, can't u discern anything? No wonder u DO VIDEO, u don have the grace of hand.

Member when i said 2 that other lightweight bPrevidi the ‘pleasure of paint’ and he went apeshit? it came from Matisse, so just goes 2 show how blah blah. Myb u could get a show 4 blandness, but tha's so 20 C. u'll du it.

Ok, so i look like Napolean dynamite, gosh

by Jared (04.15.05 05:38 pm)

Butt i find Sharikov surprisingly luvable in an affectionate way. He abuses me w/ verbal punishment; he does not mean it. When he's nice things r really cool and i can look up to him and feel proud.

there goes the nieghbourhood.

by Jareth (04.15.05 05:47 pm)

sorry, main content being hating me and a victum mentality. i see you are fanitcying about being me again, it is fun no? post ur address i would be more then happy to mail u sum panties...

Redu: Jared

by broken flower (04.15.05 06:21 pm)

Go make yourself a dang quesadilla!

but who really cares?

by broken flower (04.15.05 06:24 pm)

did you know...

that the fauves were called “wild beasts” by their contemporaries and critics. The term came from the art critic Louis Vauxcelles, who noted a classic Italian sculpture in the middle of a room at the Salon d'Automne that was also displaying a collection of Fauve works. Vauxcelles exclaimed: “Donatello among the wild beasts.” It was probably not a compliment.

Re: Eat me

by myprettypony (04.15.05 10:41 pm)

my uncle used to have a dog named ‘grizzle’ and this dog had a peculiar habit of stealing the dirty undies of all the ladies in the house, secreting them to his cave underneath the master bedroom bed and eating the crotch out of the panties

Re: Selective Memories

by jackieou (04.15.05 11:16 pm)

Fauvisme?: colorist - I'm always asking: who's colors are these; fauves...obviously...little color people. Ayway - todays daily dose; done with newspapers; now...back of xerox of n/bugatti designs...

Re: Hindsight is 20/20

by myprettypony (04.16.05 02:15 am)

must of owned stock in crotchless panties

personal hygene

by oops ment (04.16.05 02:19 am)


Re: Front to back

by epforbrush (04.16.05 02:28 am)

do you look at your results?

Re: Selective diagnosis

by oops ment (04.16.05 02:31 am)

some people eat this

and like it


Re: Selective Memories

by alienbarbiebaby (04.16.05 03:02 am)

I'm never in town when it's served; the food stylest crowd smile in the wrong way at the wrong time.
Hop whore tune itty:

Re: Selective Memories

by alienbarbiebaby (04.16.05 03:07 am)

ps: back to this serra thing - I had to temp down at the pace university library for a while (periodicals) was a real drag. No place to eat lunch - only open space was where the big iron thing was - I dunno - maybe it worked?,, Oh well; have to bring your own; lucnch counters trule tepid. High put was mooching tics to “Cock sucker blues” had to walk down in about 8 degree weather - about 300 bo-hos in black leather; chatholic school across the street let out:“Yo! You all getting ticket to dat cock...sucker..booos-ha ha ha” and then he told us it was sold out."

Later I found a way in:“Oh're that guy...”

Ford Tempo.

Re: Selective Memories

by Jareth (04.16.05 10:53 am)

Satin sheets are very romantic What happens when you’re not in bed ...

Re: Selective Memories

by alienbarbiebaby (04.16.05 01:06 pm)

See - just in time - they send these around as a bad/joke ref (guys in sansibelt from jersey who ussed to hang out at playboy clubs puffing on cigars saying:“Oh well...I guesss you didn't make it...ha ha ha...”) to the MArlena Diethrich movie - sorry - a fine marque; send one around anytime and...she has aids asshole...:

as it so happen I just bought a little one to go with my chaperals; already have the blue sunoco one (sans decal sheet unfortunatly ) a pisser to find none the less): anytime...slide it on over - not a neck breaker:

Sorry Jareth

by Jareth (04.16.05 01:52 pm)

I used unconsciously your real name of Jared, the Subway sandwich guy.

Anyway share cough can't figure out how to co op identities like I can, so there's more than 1 who think u r warm piss in a cold cup.

Monumental to Mediocre.

Moreover whoever the moron is above who attempted the Fauves position. WRONG!

The critic @ the Salon d'Autumne referred to Rousseau, who actually had animals or wild beasts in his ptg. Had nothing 2 du w/ color fukhead. No wonder u all haplessly spend hours pissing your time on the crawler, u know 20 c rt nada. Question can any moron figure y matisse was showing w/ rousseau and picasso owned 5 of his works?

and that penelope stupid attempt @ haiku w/ the bee in the peonies. Zen buzz not. Usually a peonie opens such that the panacles r easily accessed. No deepness, sorry. Please stick 2 your Jreth type insipidness. gets embarrassing when u try 2b rty. why not try the labial fold thing a la o keefe. did u know duchamp got his idea of debutanting Rrose Selavy from okeefe dressing in men's clothing? the whole dam bloomsbury group were crossers. Now u no. I no, j ring, u du video, and that makes u like an aging boomer hippie sort guy right w/ the usual liberal hatred of females w/ serious power, eh.

Re: Selective Memories

by Jareth (04.16.05 01:57 pm)

let me guess. your a very lonely person.

Do You Need Counseling?

If you feel that your anger is really out of control, if it is having an impact on your relationships and on important parts of your life, you might consider counseling to learn how to handle it better. A psychologist or other licensed mental health professional can work with you in developing a range of techniques for changing your thinking and your behavior.

When you talk to a prospective therapist, tell her or him that you have problems with anger that you want to work on, and ask about his or her approach to anger management. Make sure this isn't only a course of action designed to “put you in touch with your feelings and express them”—that may be precisely what your problem is. With counseling, psychologists say, a highly angry person can move closer to a middle range of anger in about 8 to 10 weeks, depending on the circumstances and the techniques used.

Don't get near my stinger

by penelope (04.16.05 03:30 pm)

You failed my test again, Duuudles

Basho (bah-shoh), pseudonym of Matsuo Munefusa (1644-94), Japanese poet, considered the finest writer of Japanese haiku during the formative years of the genre. Born into a samurai family prominent among nobility, Basho rejected that world and became a wanderer, studying Zen, history, and classical Chinese poetry, living in apparently blissful poverty under a modest patronage and from donations by his many students. From 1667 he lived in Edo (now Tokyo), where he began to compose haiku.

But I guess he didnt go to school with Jeff Koons, so he doesnt know anything about peonies, bees or haiku

Nothing that I wouldnt try

by penelope (04.16.05 03:34 pm)

I saw her, yeah I saw her
With a black tongue tied round the roses
A fist pounding on a vending machine
Toy diamond ring stuck on her finger
With a noose she could hang from the sun
And point it out with the dark sunglasses
Walking crooked down the beach
She spits in the sand
Where their bones are bleaching

And I know I'm gonna steal her eye
She doesn't even know it's wrong
And you know I'm gonna make it die
Take her where her soul belongs
Know I'm gonna steal her eye
Nothing that I wouldn't try
Hey my summer girl
Hey my summer girl
My summer girl
Hey my summer girl

I saw her, yeah I saw her
With her hands tied back
Her rags are burnin'
Calling out from a landfilled life
Scrawling her name up on the ceiling
Throw a coin in the fountain of dust
White noise, her ears are ringing
Got a ticket for my midnight hanging
Throw a bullet from a freight train leaving

And I know I'm gonna steal her eye
She doesn't even know it's wrong
And you know I'm gonna make it die
Take her where her soul belongs
Know I'm gonna steal her eye
Nothing that I wouldn't try
Hey my summer girl
Hey my summer girl
My summer girl
Hey my summer girl

Hey my summer girl
Hey my summer girl
My summer girl
Hey my summer girl
Hey my summer girl
Hey my summer girl
My summer girl

Hey my summer girl

Re: Selective Memories

by sharikov (04.16.05 06:14 pm)

ooooh lord. i have no idea who duchance is, who is this neo=nazi homophobe with the terrible bunny art and the car obsession is, i don't know who the fuck any of you are, thank god. i'm too busy to spend my time tracking down the intricate strings of pseudo-narrative that describe this message board. basically i just have a hard time suffering idiots, it's always been a problem, and jared the 21 year old video artist qualifies eminently. from what i just saw so does duchance. i do have vinegar, and not just in my douche. but as far as ‘knowledge of painting’ who gives a fuck about that? i dry humped a latour once, does that count?
victim mentality blach blah slkdhashdaskldhs
think what you want jared, your ‘artistic integrity’ and editing machines will keep you warm in the grave. why don't you post not your address, but just your name, so we can all follow the inevitable plume of success you're no doubt on the verge of experiencing.
this is gay. i have work to do. i'll stop wasting my time trying to help you out jared, you're just too fucking stupid. but a lot of this could be glossed over if you made even the slightest attempt to grasp a hold of the english language, and possibly aim for a higher standard of spelling . petty? yeah.

Re: Selective Memories

by alienbarbiebaby (04.16.05 11:05 pm)

anti-nazi league darling, but ready to hear valid complainst and comments - ctique...; as soon as you define the nature of art, art economy, real buiness and economy of so-ho, etc, I'll watch it with the acars...I think their funny; my sudenleyy ex-grilfirend girl , swear to god, got one of “those” jobs in so-ho and the first thing she did was try to sell me a ussed porsche - that Harley thing still there?

Anyways - not tweak dady, but this is what, well...snap shot ecology is about - no my watch list.

Re: Selective Memories

by alienbarbiebaby (04.16.05 11:18 pm)

oh yea...seeing as your so desperate for dope and half your friends just died:

Re: Selective Memories

by jackieou (04.16.05 11:53 pm)

PS - a lure? The touring version was actually cconsidered for THE BAD CAR CLUB - but the racing version is infamouse, including “tank” version, and enrties at indy...22 I think....hmmmmmm; they have been cold with the bugatti promoton, not an entry at the message board since I was deleated again:

Re: Selective Memories

by Jareth (04.17.05 12:03 am)

sharikov, my name is erin.
JMB died at my age a fully accomplished Aritst. my spelling and grammer suck, i would never try to write pro, i suggest you researve judgement till you see the work, it is all ready successful in my mind, i am not looking for that much more. how are you trying to help me? thru insults?

Re: sharikov

by epforbrush (04.17.05 12:44 am)

ever think of changing your name to 'eating crow'?

Re: Selective Memories

by jackieou (04.17.05 12:47 am)

PS - a lure? The touring version was actually cconsidered for THE BAD CAR CLUB - but the racing version is infamouse, including “tank” version, and enrties at indy...22 I think....hmmmmmm; they have been cold with the bugatti promoton, not an entry at the message board since I was deleated again:

Re: Marriages might not be about the fireworks but making art is

by epforbrush (04.17.05 01:20 am) it happens when it happens

Soy un perdedor

by oops ment (04.17.05 04:21 am)

In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey
Butane in my veins and I’m out to cut the junkie
With the plastic eyeballs, spray-paint the vegetables
Dog food stalls with the beefcake pantyhose
Kill the headlights and put it in neutral
Stock car flamin’ with a loser and the cruise control
Baby’s in reno with the vitamin d
Got a couple of couches, sleep on the love-seat
Someone came in sayin’ I’m insane to complain
About a shotgun wedding and a stain on my shirt
Don’t believe everything that you breathe
You get a parking violation and a maggot on your sleeve
So shave your face with some mace in the dark
Savin’ all your food stamps and burnin’ down the trailer park

Yo. cut it.

Soy un perdedor
I’m a loser baby, so why don’t you kill me?

Soy un perdedor
I’m a loser baby, so why don’t you kill me?

Forces of evil on a bozo nightmare
Ban all the music with a phony gas chamber
’cuz one’s got a weasel and the other’s got a flag
One’s on the pole, shove the other in a bag
With the rerun shows and the cocaine nose-job
The daytime crap of the folksinger slob
He hung himself with a guitar string
A slab of turkey-neck and it’s hangin’ from a pigeon wing
You can’t write if you can’t relate
Trade the cash for the beef for the body for the hate
And my time is a piece of wax fallin’ on a termite
That’s chokin’ on the splinters

Soy un perdedor
I’m a loser baby, so why don’t you kill me?
(get crazy with the cheese whiz)
Soy un perdedor
I’m a loser baby, so why don’t you kill me?
(drive-by body-pierce)
(yo bring it on down)

(I’m a driver, I’m a winner; things are gonna change I can feel it)

Soy un perdedor
I’m a loser baby, so why don’t you kill me?
(I can’t believe you)
Soy un perdedor
I’m a loser baby, so why don’t you kill me?
Soy un perdedor
I’m a loser baby, so why don’t you kill me?
(schprechen sie deutches, baby)
Soy un perdedor
I’m a loser baby, so why don’t you kill me?
(know what I’m sayin’? )

Re: SelectiSaying what I'm knowin' ya.

by 2 shill 2 shill (04.17.05 05:55 am)

Talkin' a lotta shit
Got a lotta shit on my mind
Got some bad feelings on me

Fast, fast people coming to my house
Telling me things I already know
Some bad shit
Don't wanna touch it
It's like big, empty city, full of toasters
Bad energy

Hey, I know who you are, but you don't know me
Ha ha ha!
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know that
I know that guy, man
That's the guy, man
Ha ha ha!
I know that guy
Yeah, he's going to your seat, man
Come to me, sorry to me, man
I make a problem for you my friend
Ha ha ha!
I know man, make a problem very quick, very quick!
Ha ha ha! Woo!

Feeeeeelings, nothing more than feeeeeelings......

by 2 shill 2 shill (04.17.05 06:24 am)

Santa Fe man, blind in one eye, shot in other eye

Kevin Bankens was able to get to a park after he was shot with a pellet gun.

Last Update: 04/13/2005 4:23:48 PM
By: Todd Dukart

A Santa Fe man who was already blind in his right eye was shot with a pellet gun in his left eye.

Kevin Bankens, 35, was shot several times with a pellet gun Tuesday afternoon. He was jogging near the intersection of Calle Atajo and Avenida Linda.

Bankens, who was already blind in his right eye because of a fireworks accident, was hit in the left eye by one of the pellets. He was able to make it to a nearby park, where city workers called an ambulance.

Police are looking for a suspect or suspects. They said Bankens didn’t recall seeing anyone or any vehicles just before the attack.

His condition has not been released.

Anybody with information is asked to call Santa Fe police.

Re: Selective Memories

by jackieou (04.17.05 10:11 am)

Part of a Michael Jackson conspiracy team no doubt; wife was a well known kitchen ware designe team...

anyways - :

World - Reuters
We Have No Reason to Apologize, China Tells Japan

41 minutes ago

 World - Reuters

By John Ruwitch and Linda Sieg

BEIJING/TOKYO (Reuters) - China told Japan bluntly Sunday that it had nothing to apologize for after weeks of anti-Japanese protests, some violent, in cities across the country.

The Chinese are furious at a revised Japanese school
textbook they say whitewashes atrocities during Japan's 1931-45
occupation of China and at Tokyo's bid for a permanent seat on
the U.N. Security Council.

really - I'll help - kill every single one of em: drug dealers...always ataching, what did japan run out of; toyotas for dope!

Re: Selective Memories

by jackieou (04.17.05 12:40 pm)

uh-oh - all around; pretty tricky, Bob Bunny, A;lfa corse police will have to clear this baby up fast; if only I could get a figure on my barbie doll and compendium points - :

really...this is why people hang out in the bronx iand stuff; I just see em every republican admisastration after being thrown of school/work and kidnaped:

'higher standard of spelling'?

by sharikov (04.17.05 01:47 pm)

CherCough, this coming from a Neanderthal who can't even put ? at the end of their questions. And try some Vocabulary, like Jaredth, ur writing greys, a university no no. Insipidness paralyses and enervates the text into a sallowness bordering on the insoucient. ‘Neo=Nazi’ should be written Neo-Nazi or just neo Nazi. Since u don paint SonynCherikov u seem trivial and dull.

As 4 Penelopes rather bookish resort to ACADEMIC text, so u own intro to bland bland. Late Medieval/Northern Renaissance packs numerous examples of “School of's” who simply copy the works of innovators. Your poet seems in that vein, never bothering 2 look at a real peony, opting instead 4 other poems about peonies. If that's your idea of profoundness u need to go stick your head in some good compost. read on.

U dingy cunt, a peony emits a sticky syrup stored in its rather shallow tuburic root thru the crown along the buds sepals, attracting the red ant and the red ant only. The ants eventually slice through the sepals in pursuit of the sugar foliating the peonies showy bloom. The Ants du the pollinating. Bees hardly work the thick fragrant display and Y would they? IT REEKS OF THE DANGEROUS ANTS. So how is your poem nothing more than the tautological poetry about poetry? It's descriptivly wrong.

Instead of reading, sometimes u need 2 wake up and smell the peonies. Moreover a painting of a peony obviously has it so much over the dying poem. Start w/ Fantin-Latour.

Re: Selective Memories

by penelope (04.17.05 02:11 pm)

Obviously you've never heard of Basho, which doesnt surprise me.

There are so many types of peony. Here's one with a bee in it:
I like the fuller ones myself:

Basho vs. Fantin Latour. I'd like to be on a long hike with the two of them. Somehow I dont think theyd be fighting about who's work was “better”

Re: Selective Memories

by jackieou (04.17.05 10:35 pm)

see - with a name like p-pow - my ex was all recomending them ( a bad signe) like some bennington fagot she'd gone to shool married someone who thoght she owned - semetic princess type, like a might be related to her - 122th cousin or something, quite tepid, japanese shit on the wall, not polite...; D. W should there; another time, some 50ish mi guy in sansabelt...really ...great place... honest. Number...3 on my list to run in with a nicely tuned up larg caliber hand gun. OK - cheap:

Re: Selective Memories

by confusionIs nothing new (04.17.05 10:36 pm)

good evening bitch.
exactly who are you talking to ?


by Theologian (04.17.05 11:07 pm)

so pen u show a photo of a 21st C peony from Caimbridge england to make your point about a wandering babbler who lived in a hut on an island near Kyoto in the 17th Century. What r u smokin bitch? anyway my point still stands get your fukin head out of googled jpegs and try gardening, u'll c y Monet luved it so. Leave the tautological info crawling to media droogs like zipjaredth. Figures the fukin limees wouldn't know a peonie from a starving William Baffin. That's a long cane w/ a floret habit who is much like your 'peonie', only poor fragrance yet hardy to 10 below.

The danger u run info slut Penelope is that u never dream your source could b wrong. U've bought the Baudrilardrian bullshit that there is only simulacra or Lacan's hermetically sealed system of signification which in turn he got from his association w/ Picasso thru the academic Puteaux group of Gleize and Metzinger, which interestingly enough numbered Duchamp, until D dared to mix w/ the Mongrel Futurists and was xpelled. Dubourd and the Situationists marxian spectacle just might b wrong.

One day the scales may fall from your eyes.

Re: Selective Memories

by confusionIs nothing new (04.17.05 11:13 pm)

yo. ok here we go. we know what my work looks like, we know pen... so to a certain extent the shadow boxing is becoming just that. put up or shut up you rancid, yestruerdays trash smelling cunnty little bitch.

Re: Selective Memories

by rockhudson (04.17.05 11:14 pm)

where is pen's work?

Re: Selective Memories

by penelope (04.18.05 12:42 am)

picture worth 1000 words aint it fuktard? see—what happens in your garden doesnt necessarily happen in mine, or anyone elses for that matter

ask erin for my link, rock you handsome thing.

and more much more then this

by magdalene (04.18.05 12:55 am)

got it right here.. .. feel free to drop a line

Pen u can't read

by sharikov (04.18.05 12:35 pm)

“picture worth 1000 words aint it fuktard?”
Asschwkally mine r worth a hell of a lot more cause they resonate many diff semantic pathways; your impoverished 2d's wither from lack of good soil.

anyway, your pic does NOT make your point as it is from the wrong country and NOT a peonie, I don't care what the flunky work study student at Caimbridge posted. Moreover u silly pubik hair, did u notice the bee was hardly entangled in the peonie as you claimed your poem stated. Must b the dumb ass translation. U should read Willard Quine, the harvard philosopher on translation and conventions. Wittgenstein might help2. U NEED 2 VERIFY YOUR SOURCES.

and what has my work got 2du w/ anything, my propositions here r my art and stand independently

I du text like what's his face does VIDEO. And your viscious vaginal hatred U need counseling so much vitriol in that malic white middle class brain.

And dee udder 1 thing

by sharikov (04.18.05 12:47 pm)

where would i c your work and pen's? I hardly spend much time 'on line', opting instead 4 my garden spade, perennials and woody ornamentals, when i'm not listening to the new Nirvana releases and Modest mouse.

I backed my car into a cop car the other day
but he just drove off sometimes life's okay ...

And we'll all float on okay eeeeee yaaaaaay
And we'll all float on anyway.

Y would i need to read old moldy poems of a decayed culture when I have Modest Mouse or White Stripes
'I just don't know what 2du w/ myself, dah dahmmph'
or radio head or rogue wave or pretty girls or or ...

du, so re-pubelick-an.

by oops ment (04.18.05 01:15 pm)

nothing like being the biggest asshole and claiming sainthood while attacking others who use the same. and forgetting that you du it all the time and others much less so.
fucking re-pubelick-an.
go suck ralphie reed and maybe rule the fall.

wrong cuntry

by broken flower (04.18.05 01:28 pm)

you're like a tourist here—speaking the wrong language but dont know it—ugly american

Re: Selective Memories

by broken flower (04.18.05 01:33 pm)

youre right about one thing. I cant live without the bone. but unlike you, i dont have to.

this one either:

Re: Non-Selective condesention. WOW

by Coxswain (04.18.05 03:40 pm)

all this shit from a poem?

Du, you're amazing. Not ‘good’ amazing.
Just fucked-Up amazing.

even poems can get you up and bothered

and you have spawned? where's a good dam when ya need one?

Re: How Now, Brown Cow

by zipthwung (04.18.05 03:47 pm)
How like a winter hath my absence been
From thee, the pleasure of the fleeting year!
What freezings have I felt, what dark days seen!
What old December's bareness every where!
And yet this time removed was summer's time,
The teeming autumn, big with rich increase,
Bearing the wanton burden of the prime,
Like widow'd wombs after their lords' decease:
Yet this abundant issue seem'd to me
But hope of orphans and unfather'd fruit;
For summer and his pleasures wait on thee,
And, thou away, the very birds are mute;
Or, if they sing, 'tis with so dull a cheer
That leaves look pale, dreading the winter's near.

Re: Selective Memories

by broken flower (04.18.05 04:30 pm)

“Females with serious power”, yknow

Re: Selective Memories

by sharikov (04.18.05 04:33 pm)

i'm really hurt that someone has managed to use my NICKNAME to contribute to this mindless banter. oh well.
i'm still wondering why cunt and bitch and various other violently sexist terms are bandied around as if gang rape has never occurred. is this okay now? is cunt okay again?

Re: Selective Memories

by kettle black (04.18.05 04:37 pm)

I'm a cyborg, but it seems ok to me.

Re: Selective Memories

by Jareth (04.18.05 04:44 pm)

did somebody say gang bang?

Re: Selective Memories

by kettle black (04.18.05 05:13 pm),10117,12829741-1702,00.html

Attila is still a popular boy's name in Hungary

Re: Selective Memories

by wally cox (04.18.05 05:21 pm)

“George” is big in the states.
how long does it take to build real cachet?

jaw dropping cachet?

the ‘what the fuck?’ cachet

drop on in

I'll give you too much water with any luck.

Re: Selective Memories

by Jareth (04.18.05 05:24 pm)

faster with fashion?

Re: Selective Memories

by penelope (04.18.05 08:50 pm)

nice job corcoran curators—

katherine spence too

Re: Selective Memories

by Hulk (04.18.05 09:22 pm)

Hulk here.

Hulk like sculpture. Hulk like Chamberlain. Hulk like primer grey car wreck type sculpture. Hulk see many cars. Some cars just no paint just bondo. Hulk see many car, like car crash best.

Hulk no read, like hear Crash movie. Also stock market crash. Crash all good fun.

Crash sometimes mean accident. Accident mean crash not meant happen, just happen like life. Like when artist crash bullet into painting. That make good crash. But hole not allways same. Hulk conoiseur? No Hulk just think, sit.

Life Hulk one big crash.

Hulk dream.

One time bad men do experiment Hulk. Hulk not like. Hulk mad. Hulk smash. Hulk smash woman make boy fly. Hulk angry.

your (sic) like a tourist here

by King Kunt (04.19.05 08:51 am)

Yeah and u r such an insider (translation typical art wanna b who can't keep his attention focused since his brain is like a tv remote, discussing anything in ptg would tax the cerrebellum into crashing); meanwhile back at the station w/ the obligatory chase scene, what's wrong w/ being a tourist? Some body has 2 buy the ptg. or have u 4gotten that's how we pay the bills?

U know the ability to dwell on something is what most artists do; instead of buzzing from one flower to the next, to return to our b metaphor. From Michel Angelo's figure to Rembrandt's face from Monet's Garden to Rothko's and Albers hommage to the Square. (did i mention dekoonings women?)

U neglect 2c the trite facile comparison Penelope attempted forcasts a deficit in accuracy. Most of u here r novices who when faced w/ library of painting knowledge, among other things, quit, start crying and then resort to mamb pamb name calling like ass hole, TOURIST ( i heart that 1, Adorno and Benjamin would find that the SYNECDOCHe to write home about), and so on. Anyway, if I'm the tourist, unable 2 speak the language as u say, and u have here such a professional argot of critical terms, then what does that make u? the loser who spends hours drivling on the net? Impressive. Mayb i'm just 2 arty or avant gardy 4 u puppies.

She wouldn't know a Peony if it came up and bit her on her sedentary FAT ASS.

there, goes the neighbourhood.

by magdalene (04.19.05 08:56 am)

? who is like a “tourist” here?

I figured it out!

by Focus Group (04.19.05 11:24 am)

U where Italian shoes
like that's suppose to mean something.
-Peggy Larkin, in concert, Red = luck

Now I know Y u horse's asses r so lacking in deep structure or all husk to use the Chomskyian attempt @ language. U r the generation of gamers, from atari's to the game cubes, many of u still gaming Grand Theft Auto or bloody Bond still today, long after the makers of video games thought u would have stopped. What that position entails is that u never bothered to pick up CONTENT. U spend or have spent copious hours manipulating media (game cube to internet, iTunes videos, porn clips Jardeath to CNN to cell phone to La Cinema), fondness for a lasting donkey kong relationship I know, but this meant u have never gained a deeper sense of literature, art history, painting, car mechanics, drwg, bcause like my students 2day, u haven't the patience for old school media, reading.

Thus, if I asked ZipJarrywannab, to discuss at length the relationship of Bill Viola's video to an early gen of video users like Nam Jun Paik, he couldn't do it since Google won't have entries that compare the two artists, unless he lucks out and some curator posted an exhibition catalogue. ( i should chek) What u worker ants don't realize is that Google is the Doxia the Dominant Culture's Narrative, so 2 iTunes, CNN, the flicks etc, one nice baudrilardrian media spectacle. I realize u will say so what's wrong w/ dat. Well it goes back to the Penelope BEE, (so cute), how do u verify your source to measuere truth (i know i know, a dirty word)? It's like 1 big Bush Infopolitikmerz. I rest my case. Zing.

Re: Selective Memories

by Unbekannt (04.19.05 11:42 am)

...and while we're speaking of aesthetic dislocation, Duchamp found a new picture to put on his d'art board—lower left corner of page 10 Artforum February 2004.

“I love hitting the Bullshit's Eye!”

Ah, thanks for the selective memories.

Re: Selective Memories

by Jareth (04.19.05 11:50 am)

Well considering i have spent a substainal amount of time with the work of both artists, lectures, books and performances... the only real similary would be the use of video, performance and installation. media. - and both had experiance with the commerical field. i think the main differance lays within the approch that the viewer needs to have,
Bill Viola is best understood through a lexicon of film and painting, -
Nam June Pak, well a deep understanding of both pop and the fluxis movement.
i really don't feel the need to validate my understanding futher.

Re: Selective Memories

by Coxswain (04.19.05 12:09 pm)

The relationship is that Nam Jun would have fucked you if he was blind drunk, while Bill wouldn't touch you with a ten foot pole under any circumstance.

Now go away.

old dog. no tricks.

by Jareth (04.19.05 12:24 pm)

Pithy retort! Once again proving your self to be a deeply intellectual and worthy adversary! Your deep understanding of Artists who choose to employee the digital processes is flawless. I tip my hat to you Madame,
may i raise a glass, - here here!!

Re: Selective Vocalizations

by wally cox (04.19.05 12:29 pm)

It's your voice.

Re: Selective Memories

by Coxswain (04.19.05 12:53 pm)

Whiskey, gin and brandy
With a glass I'm pretty handy
I'm trying to walk a straight line
On sour mash and cheap wine
So join me for a drink boys
We're gonna make a big noise

So don't worry about tomorrow
Take it today
Forget about the cheque
We'll get hell to pay

Have a drink on me
Have a drink on me
Have a drink on me
Have a drink on me
On me

Come on

Dizzy, drunk and fightin'
On tequila white lightnin'
My glass is getting shorter
On whiskey, ice and water
So come on and have a good time
And get blinded out of your mind

So don't worry about tomorrow
Take it today
Forget about the cheque
We'll get hell to pay

Have a drink on me
Have a drink on me
Have a drink on me
Have a drink on me
On me

Get stoned

Have a drink on me
Have a drink on me
Have a drink on me
Come on

Gonna roll around
Gonna hit the ground
Take another swing
Have another drink
Gonna drink it dry
Gonna get me high
Come on all the boys
Make a noise

Have a drink on me
Have a drink on me
Have a drink on me
Have a drink on me
Have a drink on me
Have a drink on me
Have a drink on me
Have a drink on me

Have a drink oooooooon me

brand me.

by Jareth (04.19.05 01:05 pm)

55% General American English
25% Yankee
15% Upper Midwestern
5% Midwestern
0% Dixie

zipping myself into the sleeping bag of myself

by Coxswain (04.19.05 01:08 pm)

time for a coffee break

Re: Selective Memories

by Coxswain (04.19.05 01:41 pm)

hey easy E—wasnt talkin to you—talking to her

You ARE the SOURCE, baby

Kinda made my point cracker boy.

by iVagina (04.19.05 02:33 pm)

Bill Viola is best understood through a lexicon of film and painting, -
Nam June Pak, well a deep understanding of both pop and the fluxis movement.
i really don't feel the need to validate my understanding futher.
that's it? lexicon of film and ptg, like could u b more vague and general? POP! Now there's an all purpose term that means as much as abstract does nowadays.

Fluxist is mispelled.

U have no idea how they have different positions entirely. Nam Jun (only morons add an e to his name) esp. in terms of directed and undirected video. Vastly diff sensibilities esp since nam jun never lost his linearized musical training despite Cage. All those concerts w/ Charlotte wasted.

Actually whoever the above fool was about Nam jun getting drunk. Like many asians he cannot drink alcohol as he suffers an onset of ear disequilibrium sim 2 motion sickness. He and Shigeko did like their reefer, though.

Point game match. I luv winning.

east of the mississippi...crooked letter crooked letter

by Coxswain (04.19.05 03:05 pm)

70% General American English
15% Yankee
10% Dixie
5% Upper Midwestern
0% Midwestern

the wide divide between doing and being.

by Jareth (04.19.05 03:20 pm)

go read some more text books, your armchair is getting cold. you have as firm a grasp of video practice as you of of DaDA...
thx cox, however i have learned to be a bit guarded about info, and Du is like shooting the shit with a wounded cornered wolverine.

Re: Selective Memories

by Jareth (04.19.05 03:29 pm)

and now for something completly different.

Re: Selective Deckhands

by son of flipper (04.19.05 07:13 pm)

It was on the good ship Venus
By Christ, ya shoulda seen us
The figurehead was a whore in bed
And the mast, a mammoth penis

The captain of this lugger
He was a dirty bugger
He wasn't fit to shovel shit
From one place to another

Friggin' in the riggin'
Friggin' in the riggin'
Friggin' in the riggin'
There was fuck all else to do

The captains name was Morgan
By Christ, he was a gorgon
Ten times a day he'd stop and play
With his fuckin' organ

The first mate's name was Cooper
By Christ he was a trooper.
He jerked and jerked until he worked
Himself into a stupor


The second mate was Andy
By Christ, he had a dandy
Till they crushed his cock on a jagged rock
For cumming in the brandy

The cabin boy was Flipper
He was a fuckin' nipper
He stuffed his ass with broken glass
And circumcised the skipper


The Captain's wife was Mabel
To fuck she was not able
So the dirty shits, they nailed her tits
Across the barroom table

The Captain had a daughter
Who fell in deep sea water
And by her squeals we knew the eels
Had found 'er sexual quarters

Repeat Chorus to Fade

Re: fluctuation

by epforbrush (04.19.05 11:25 pm)

all media and all artistic disciplines are fair game for combination and fusion

Re: Selective Memories

by army of one (04.19.05 11:43 pm)

65% General American English
15% Upper Midwestern
10% Dixie
10% Yankee
0% Midwestern


I speak a dialectic that is fully modulated translates fer the bars in thar as well as the tendentious, the manichean, the rube, the pedant, the poseur, the flaneur, the gadabout, the dogmatist, the machiavellian, the dialectical hegelian, the adjudicated dionysian, the abased appolonian, the contrarian, the sophist, the doric, ionic, iconic, federalist republican conservative bombastic trogladyte. The meritricious iconoclast, the diocletian arbalest, the defenestrated penitent, the plutocratic hedonist, the Cimmerian.

I put the the in the.
I made the glove fit
I voted to aquit.
I'll eat a bug to make a sale. On my head.
Honey on my toungue I'm an anthill
I use the fork to eat the shill
My name is legion but I'm like one witht he deal
I make the beyond go pale. I leave a jet trail, full sail I am the horizon, all the things you be deriding. Jesu.
The Pope. I cut his throat with a rope like soap.
I make a dope fiend green
So stoned I make the has seem like its been.
I rent to own but I dont have furniture
I'm on layaway I'm the future
I live in the past but my ass faces windward
I eat dinner like a swineherd
So much slop I get seconds.

well it's like this jar-arf

by Immanual Kunt (04.20.05 08:48 am)

go read some more text books, your armchair is getting cold. you have as firm a grasp of video practice as you of of DaDA..

god I at least can discuss the difference between the different dada centers,as i've done here in the past, not to mention teaching the material, all u can do is say it's some kinda je ne sais quoi. Again, vague, unknowing. While at Iowa working in the first ever Dada Archives w/ Timothy Benson, well published scholar in the field I got to know one of the production people in robert Wilson's group, yes The robert Wilson einstein on the beach and all that. We kept in contact; he's gone on to du work 4 Nam jun, lived in the same building I did on Mercer. so I asked him, if it was reasonable to assume that if someone like yourself who calls yourself ‘I do video’ couldn't discuss the differance between paik/Viola, then could we make a judgement? He said simply, not knowing the diff tween those 2 is like being a rock musician and not knowing the diff tween the Beatles and Hendrix. I rest my case your honor. The Jar-Arf knows no end 2 sophistry. The payoff however is that now u can't even say I do video since your credibility is shit.

Now as far your glib attempt @ associating Dada and some type of mamb pamb Zen being, Just Do It as Nike said, well remember i was divinely ordained 2b @ the original Woodstock arts/music festival (yes there were art works there). I designated the subtraction of automobiles from social xchange to be a prime suspect of what I christened as 'Natural DADA'. I am the founding member thank u and Chief Dadaist and president of the Universe. There4 i don just know dada, I AM DADA.

U probably still think Motherwell's babyish Dada painters and poets is all u need 4 dada. Try Dickran Taschian's SkyScraper Primitives. And at least i can cite relevant material on the subject, all u can du is repeat your u know something that only u can know about dada. Well Wittgenstein's famous beetle in a box trashes that shit big time, dud.

Another place where u r full of shit jARF-ARF. U imply that ‘armchair’ or reading texts knowledge is disdainful, yet we have an education system that is constantly telling us to read as children and as adults to keep the analytical functions of the brain active. Obviously u don't, which is y u have such a beginner's level brain. Finally, Penelope is reading bullshit ‘high-COO’ poems from some dead century and u don't take her 2 task 4 'armchairism'. once again, your own behavior put a noose around your neck.

Re: Selective Memories

by Jareth (04.20.05 09:04 am)

i have many bookshelves, i have no problem with that. - i use them for referance and planning, but as a starting or returing point, du. you never talk about feeling remotelly anything DaDA, and you have a sickening distatain for video, which mearly highlights your short comings,,.. eh thier “paint artist”. Any Artist can choose to apply any medium at any tiime in there carrier which best carries his message... i know reel 101 here, but read backwards...
All you do is refer to texts. were you there? did you meet ball? is that your life? or somthing you memorised? what a yawn fest. DaDA is a way of life.
but tell me the truth, your in an armchair are'nt you it looks just out your white tower window... and your better then all those people down there. your better and you deserve more. more then them. more then me. more then anyone. damnt your the best...

your nuts if you think i am going to put down any kind of information for you on those Artists, i am over shareing info for free. howz abut you take me out for drinks and say a play and if your lucky i will let you know. peaon.

What more can you say now?
What more can you do?
No need to feel sad now
'Cause times are pretty thin
And you can't win
You can't win
You can't win

Blah blah blah

by Theologian (04.20.05 02:29 pm)

same old dominant narrative shit diff day Jarf BARF. Get an art education then mayb u can play.

Re: Selective Memories

by army of one (04.20.05 03:19 pm)

there you go again dude, whatsup whatsup suxking my gums at you never mind blather.

What does Hugo Ball, or anyone for that matter, have t'do wid de price of tea in china? are you saying its not not ? If so, tell me because then I'll directly address it it it. Otherwise its just a nother day in Paradise, ignorance is bliss and so on. falling down , rabbit hole, China Syndrome center of the earth core principle.

Really whats the APPLICATION? I don't see where you are saying anything other than reifying the historical order. So what? Wheres the re-order? Wheres the sort sort sort and the court jury box retort? No, you're historey is just that; Le Morte.
I mean no one is talking about the bourgeoise anymore. Par example:
Vivre L'Histoire!!!!

Re: Selective Memories

by Unbekannt (04.20.05 03:20 pm)

not quite dada, but definitely caca.

Re: Compost

by army of one (04.20.05 03:23 pm)

Re: Quiver the hearts!

by army of one (04.20.05 03:27 pm)

De tous champs de batailie
J'ai fait crier mes douleurs.
Ouais! qu'aucun doute se passe
ca fait frémir les coeurs!

Re: Selective Memories

by Jareth (04.20.05 03:29 pm)

address contemporary DaDA, the DaDA of your day and perception. How these Artists, sure lets start will Ball, have effected your life and work, or is Art something that begins and ends with the studio and the chopping block for u?

was just over on a B&H mission.. felt the sudden need to know where those green boxes come from and go, - turns out tracks go on a little elevatior down to right under the counter, every 8th roller is mechanised the rest just spin with the force. amazing system.

Re: Selective Memories

by army of one (04.20.05 03:31 pm)

I love that system. GOing there today actually...

Garage Rocks!!!!!

Selective Service

by iVagina (04.20.05 05:17 pm)

Well Jerk Barf u managed 2 stick your foot n your mouth even further than ever. U yoose 2 get on my case 4 daring to describe the financial transactions of dealers. Now here u r saying u won't put out your prescious bullshit FOR FREE!!!!! Well aren't we the bullshit Republican Entreprenurial Money All MINE GREEDY BITCH. I am only spitting out what u need to know just to open in Dada, u don't can't but pretend 2. Talk about contradicting your self or not practising what u preach or just plain bullshitty, on top of not being able 2 draw and a phoney video artist. Mayb u should just fall out your cool loft window and bwokie your head all up.

What's that your honor, I WIN and get awarded damages 2?!! Fukin A, jehosephats.

I just don know what 2 du w/ myself,
just don't know what 2 du w/ myself,
du doo dee du.
-White Stripes

Re: Selective Memories

by Jareth (04.20.05 05:27 pm)

all mine is right.,. mine and my crue's
no loft. lots of education. i love tracking financial transactions, money makes the world go around. i just don't define my Art on its sales. I will send out the link to the new vid tonight, people seem to like it.. all the hits you know, the chealsea hotel fire kapade, 1-9 tranny, camera smaking critics and of course lots of gun point, disco lights, hot paintings and general mayhame, - a little sample here a little sample thier.. pretty damn DaDA.

your turn.

See my rhymes, are the type of fly rhymes
That can only get down with my crew
And if you try to take lines and buy grines
We´ll show how the refugees do,

The “i” shit is old and tired yesterday.

by son of flipper (04.20.05 05:29 pm)

whetstone anyone?

Re: Selective Memories

by uri geller (04.20.05 05:55 pm)

I'm sharpening up.

me me me / us us us :)

by Jareth (04.20.05 10:35 pm)

oh well video won't be ready soonish, went back to the drawing board wiht the JMB... heartland and i are planning ur july 4th back in the heartland..

so much different this time around..

Re: Selective Memories

by uri geller (04.20.05 11:11 pm)

I just bent a spoon. I am a GOD. Imagine a sharpened colon and shit which does not smell

Its as if my flatulence was capable of making people smarter. Us vs. them? No way am I falling into that trap. Spoons, lets bend them together, you and I, I and thou. Parabolas. Let us immerse ourselves in the laying of the cable. Let us wash ourselves in the shower of our data.

Re: Selective Memories

by iMIGRANT (04.21.05 08:55 am)

Dear Son of Flipper,

ur old and tired yesterday. Besides I saw Kurdt Kobain wearing son of flipper on a t back in the early 90's, fking Copy Catter. Besides we all know u r Jarfbarf anyway, nobody can disguise that bad case of mediocrity and lack of humor.

Re: Selective Memories

by Jareth (04.21.05 08:58 am)

wrong again retard.

Just remember iJesus Loves U

by iJesus (04.21.05 08:59 am)

But Jesus is gonna send your boring ass to hell for being so goddam stupid. could use a little Sharikov to spew at somebody.

I'm every women

by Jam Master Jareth (04.21.05 10:27 am)

oh pls. jesus loves me - i talk to him everyday in lenticular form. Sharikov loves me to. and so do you, you even like to dress up in my skin... lets meet here... and i will teach you to relax...

I gave Kurt the Shirt.

by son of flipper (04.21.05 11:13 am)

Didn't know that did ya Du. HA HA I WIN!

Oh that Flipper

by penelope (04.21.05 11:51 am)

Oh oh oh fucked up once again
No more rivers of blood
Taking over my dream of love
Feel a bit of poetry in my life
But it all could change in just one night

Reoccuring nightmares disturb
Everyone who let's them occur
The very same is true in life
So shed a little light to make it all right

Seems some lessons are not learned
Repeat the course or you'll return
Back to the part that was left out
Pieces of the part thrown all about

Looks messed up once more again
Cant cover it up won't pretend
Have to return to a new start
Pick another direction
Now comes the hard part

Fucked up never again

Hey! think the time is right for a palace revolution

by Jam Master Jareth (04.21.05 12:10 pm)

Ev’rywhere I hear the sound of marching, charging feet, boy
’cause summer’s here and the time is right for fighting in the street, boy
But what can a poor boy do
Except to sing for a rock ’n’ roll band
’cause in sleepy london town
There’s just no place for a street fighting man
Hey! think the time is right for a palace revolution
But where I live the game to play is compromise solution
Well, then what can a poor boy do
Except to sing for a rock ’n’ roll band
’cause in sleepy london town
There’s no place for a street fighting man

Re: Selective Memories

by son of flippant (04.21.05 01:07 pm)

Finally put File Under Easy Listening by Sugar on the ipod—Bob Mould you rock and roll fag I love u with all my heart—you make me happy

And once you give the gift away
There's nothing you can do about it
Nothing that you do or say
Can change the way I feel about it
Try to look inside of me
To find the gift that I am giving
Glad you had a chance to see
The gift that I'm delivering

and Im painting again


by iGod (04.21.05 01:12 pm)

Yah, uWon, Loser of the Year Award, 2 sonofflippertardturdjar. Actually, U 2 Dufus's, if u knew anything, the T shirt in question was handwritten by k himself, so once again u r lying. Sorry. Win all null and voidy, go home and cry w/ teddy and mom will boot up your fav video game 4 u, when she stops trying on moustaches. Actually i do adopt u as a role model when i need a generically bland type hetero male to process a signifier. It helps secure the dumbed down level of collector. Yet iKnow ucan't du me; too much bite 4 u 2 handle.

anyway, if u new your shit at all u could have simply said Viola would never put a standard tv on its side w/ magnets attached 2 fk up the gun.

god pen that unpublishable shit is embarrassing; no wonder u can use it to torture people. Is that your attempt w/ anti-poem? I couldn't even get past the 2 line. Mayb u should write about peonies and worker b's? U might try taking some writing courses; more muscular verbs might help keep from greying out like Jarf-arf.
Wow domino effect, 1 falls and they all go.

ass wipes need a forest fire

by flipu du Bird (04.21.05 01:18 pm)

just to light a cigarette.

Re: Selective Memories

by zipthwung (04.21.05 01:51 pm)

"Actually, Nam-h Jun-eh Pike-eh has a terrible piece at Storm King. Jesus I'd be embarassed to have that piece of shit shrine rotting in the UV rays. Wonder how much its worth. Milllllliiiiioooons. No doubt.

Mark Di Suvero you turd. Do you have a nerd off w/ Christo and et al? Like you both have personal photographers. I mean I really like shooting the work in the wee hours because the light shoots offa the tank traps like a dream.

Bill Viola, when I saw that video of the doppler effect I nearly slept.

And Tony Oursler, if you project one more video I swear to god I'll drown you in a jar.

Re: Selective Memories

by son of flippant (04.21.05 01:52 pm)

that “unpublishable shit” is flipper—one of kurt's favorite bands

ADD, aspergers and tourettes? Hope you got medicare


by Jam Master Jareth (04.21.05 02:02 pm)

i assume you have dumb collecters du. very very dumb.

Re: Selective Memories

by zipthwung (04.21.05 02:02 pm)*-http%3A//

Sorry dudes, you know its the price of fame to take the Foreman grill action. I know you're reading this Mark D. I get the work man, and so does the docent at the farm. Ranch. Its tremendous.

It's FREE!

by son of flipper (04.21.05 02:17 pm)

DuNot miss out.


by son of flipper (04.21.05 02:23 pm)

Jiffy Lube will only service your car.

Try Grease Monkey. They Du charity work.

Re: Selective Memories

by joh frederson (04.21.05 02:27 pm)

Can pics pump up MoMA?
Film program key to selling critics on redone landmark
The film companies gain a lot from this relationship - they get the cachet of being deemed “art” by a respected authority on the subject. BUt how does this refect on MoMA? Can a museum full of Picassos justify screening “Spy Kids”?
. indeed.


by flipu du Bird (04.21.05 02:50 pm)

yeah the old video guys r kinda snore these days; at least they have a pusle next 2 zip flatline.

u must b in Rolling Stone, corporate rock; Kurdt's fav bands usually get listed as MudHoney, Sonic yuth, Vaselines, pixies, meatpups and so on. But hey, u must b the xperts.

I like JarfBarf tho, not puttin it out 4 nothing. Fking virgin he is; keeping his property unstained 4 Mr. Rightzip. Must b a boyman luv thing. iLuv pussy many times over.

now look zipflipjarf arf, how can u crit me 4 my aliases when u poorly do it 2? so white male of u, the double standard and all.

I Poo on You

by pigeon (04.21.05 02:56 pm)

Re: Selective Memories

by Jareth (04.21.05 02:57 pm)

i distribute it to select people, for free. if you knew my work you would understand the legistics involved.

Educate Yourself

by son of flippant (04.21.05 03:09 pm)

Corporate rock. Riiiiiight.

Flipper, however, got around: Among others, Concrete Blonde, the Melvins, and Sebadoh have covered Flipper songs, and that's a homemade Flipper T-shirt Kurt Cobain's wearing on the liner sleeve of Nirvana's In Utero album. R.E.M. covered “Sex Bomb” for its Christmas fan-only single in 1994, while Mudhoney's Mark Arm wrote the liner notes to the 1995 reissue of the band's odds-and-sods collection Sex Bomb Baby. But that album, like everything Flipper's done, is currently out of print.

Check Please

by twentyseven (04.21.05 03:40 pm)

hate to overstay the welcome


u educate this, slut

by King Kunt (04.21.05 03:51 pm)

Sebadoh! Oh now u need 2 get real. ur kinda like how every body who has come out of the wood work to take credit 4 Kobain's work. u need 2 stop reading the trade journals, there is about as much sebadoh in Kobain as there is testosterone in j arf arf's leftover attempt at street fighting man. (God u must feel threatened 2 go back 2 that chewed gum. Here eat my used panty liner, little boy.)

My Childhood was inadequate...How Original.

by DuRePubelickin (04.21.05 04:04 pm)

So now I spew anony on the boards.
History is my God.
I have rooms full of books that I think others feel important.
That's because I'm afraid of my inherent short-cummings.
If I had to think for myself.
But my little crusty history/pop refrences keep me ‘happnin'’
I just love to run to my books so i can spew what others have taken the time and effort to decipher and call it my OWN.
Along the way I dropped a coupla kids.
They will not suffer the attention deficits of MY childhood.
Oh, NO!
They are the GODS of the WORLD.
I shall shit myself dry in order to run from my lack of (insert canned babyboom tirade excuse here).
Just so Bush.
Just so lacking.
Just so fucking Lame.
Attack and cower.

Re: Selective Memories

by son of flippant (04.21.05 04:05 pm)

Slow down and read...

do you understand that? good. here's a gold star!

Du @ the Mall of America

by DuRePubelickin (04.21.05 04:11 pm)

stringing the beads (that someone else made) together
on a string made by someone else
it's her creation
hope lies in a choker

Du reading tonight

by DuRePubelickin (04.21.05 04:13 pm)

Du will read the “classics” out loud
Kudos for the ability to read
no Du left behind

Re: Selective Memories

by son of flippant (04.21.05 05:27 pm)

so many steves, so little time

Re: Selective Memories

by son of flippant (04.21.05 06:15 pm)

I think we're havin lasagne for dinner, cmon over.

I'll bring the Peaches

by DuRePubelickin (04.21.05 06:18 pm)

Re: Selective Memories

by sharikov (04.21.05 06:24 pm)

nice to hear people asking after sharikov.
hi again!
legistics, what are legistics
but regardless, i think jared needs to examine his magnetic attraction to a place where he is an absolute pariah, where there is a definite consensus that this cracker is a fucking moron, a douchebag, a pretender.
jared, you poor little thing. i bet the serpentine line of women who have rejected you are subject to answering machine messages calling them cunts and bitches, maybe even FAT bitches.
why bother, those in the know are all too familiar with this evolutionary sub-brand, the sad poseur, the angry failure, the not good enough for outsider art outsider posing with a video camera. why bother, we've all seen him pushing his slides across the desk in his best casual clothes.
for what it's worth, ALL of you make NY seem like a big emotional diaper.

Re: Selective Memories

by broken flower (04.21.05 06:35 pm)

Peaches welcome anytime

Honey, get the kids. I found a ride.

by Coxswain (04.21.05 07:20 pm)

She looks nice. Her name is Peaches.

Re: Selective Memories

by broken flower (04.21.05 07:37 pm)

Can you guys fit on the bike? Its a long ride...

Thanks for the offer but, we hit a snag.

by Coxswain (04.21.05 08:02 pm)

Peaches didn't even bruise.

Re: quit bashing jareth

by myprettypony (04.21.05 09:35 pm)

and get a life- thank you.


by cali forya (04.21.05 09:52 pm)



Oh no

by sharikov (04.21.05 09:59 pm)

i think i hear jarf barf cwying in his room. we better leave his ass alone; this is suppose 2b fun, not humiliation. it's a fine line to cross.

I won.

I still can't blieve someone would bring sebadoh up in relation to kobain. I mean that man had more lasting infuences that shaped his life growing up white trash than some limp ass alternative band. Nobody cares about shegoblowme, they sucked musically, like folk implosion and blah blah iwin iwin iwin.

Sharikov we r only parallel playing here; cross my ass and i will fking bury u in painting related bullshit.

Re: Selective Memories

by Jareth (04.21.05 10:55 pm)

i was just down at the Chealsea Museum, turns out one of the ladys from the show, works out at the SAME GYM and she is cute i mean 0 plastic s. but reel agressive,.. tiger.

taken to task=time to blow smoke

by Coxswain (04.21.05 11:50 pm)

Du it

dodger fan, right?


by Jareth (04.22.05 12:55 am)

also, in. dvd. form.

pen, hun, we know u r a male

by cali forya (04.22.05 08:17 am)


by cali forya (04.22.05 08:29 am)

Get fuked. Thank u.

Look Jar arf

by cali forya (04.22.05 08:46 am)

is the only pretentious ass hole to think he can't put anything out on the net for free, as if he has anything original 2 say. He's afraid that someone will prove he's horseshit the way all the other bullshit conventions he lays our have 0 information content. His bland tautologies simply add to the drone barely audible above the frig. Moreover, now, it's obvious i'm not the only one. I've heard worker ants phatic better than this.

All u sheep better start following the herd stampeding away from jarf.

Re: Selective Memories

by Jareth (04.22.05 08:53 am)

allow me to introduce a foreign conecpt to you, it is called “friendship”.. ie. i have a lot of “friends” on this board,..

Durepube lick in's, ahem, writing, = Zip

by cali forya (04.22.05 09:25 am)

So now I spew anony on the boards.
History is my God.
I have rooms full of books that I think others feel important.
on the boards, trite sports reference typical of gen x slacker 2 dam lazy to read. (snore) So now I spew anony ...Translation: I hate it when someone criticizes what i do, I don't want anyone to critique me, Mommy I want it 2b like George Bush's polimercials.

'history is my God'. Well if u could read, u would know that i have maintained Painting as my God. Hello, could u b anymore clueless? History is merely a weapon to club ignorance such as this on the head. bites u dumb shits on the ass when u fuk up constantly.

"I have rooms full of books ...' Just 2 book shelves, and much of it is on plants and novels. i du use the libraries around town. The Morgan Pierpont original sources is amazing. Amazing manuscripts.

Your blundering ignorance points to a disdain 4 any1 who reads? why is that? r u afraid, like jarf barf, your tepid assertions will b detected as belonging 2 others? why this fear and dread of reading? Is it bcause u r really the anti intellectual barbarion spelled Republikan around here? hmmmmmmm. u know DuChamps turning point, according 2 him, remains the years he spent researching in the library of St. Genevieve. Game.

That's because I'm afraid of my inherent short-cummings.
That's funny, but again your lack of descriptive words saps any elocutionary mileage. Try vocabulary. grey, boring, dumb, Wal Mart language.————oops gotta go take my kids to their school 4 geniuses.

Re: Selective Memories

by thingsthatgo (04.22.05 09:45 am)

.writhing theist worry-worting Is

lette it be

by thingsthatgo (04.22.05 10:15 am)

why does tracy use ghost writers (pathetic patterning), one needle of whom I certainly know, to tell us such useless nothing—silly gal. I don't need to study hard to get that jareth is far more honest and relevent—not to mention more talented (as is her crew). wake up.


by Unbekannt (04.22.05 10:48 am)

St. Genevieve and Duchamp are quite chummy, actually. It has a lot to do with the whole Pantheon as national mausoleum thing.

There's Genevieve and there's Catherine de Ricci. So how many spouses does Christ have exactly?

Re: Selective Memories

by Jareth (04.22.05 11:02 am)

speaking of crue, ur girl on that first “fun” video, - the one for Liegh is spinning at subtonic round 11ish 2nite.

All perversions of the third eye
through distorted and exaggerated images,
perverted movements of the body and breakdancing,
and other forms of dancing,
and we especially call for the judgement in this hour
and the destroying of rock music directed
specifically against children
through the videos that were portrayed,
and working specifically through these individuals,
for whom we call for
the judgement of the sacred fire of this hour,
before the throne of almighty god,

Michael Jackson,
Bruce Springsteen,
Tina Turner,
David Bowie,
Van Halen,
Huey Lewis & The News,
The Cars,
Herbie Hancock,
Bonnie Tyler,
Stevie Nicks,
Men At Work,
ZZ Top,
Paul MCartney & Michael Jackson,
Weird Al Yankovic,
Cyndi Lauper,
Pink Floyd,
The Pretenders,
Billy Joel,
Billy Idol,
Elton John,
Neil Young,
Sheena Easton,
Patty Smith & Scandal,
Big Country,
Morris Day & The Sign,
John Lennon,
Audio speed wagon,
David Gilhorn,
The Rolling Stones,
Pat Benetar,
Hall & Oats,
Randy Jackson,
Adam Ant,
Christine Lavin,
Fleetwood Mac,
The Alan Parsons Project,
Bruce Springfield,
The Thompson Twins,
Missing Persons,
Duran Duran,
Culture Club including Boy George,
Band Aid,

[Repeat over again up to......]
Missing Persons,
Duran Duran,
Missing Persons,
Duran Duran,.....

Duran Duran
Duran Duran
Duran Duran.......

[Repeat over again from Michael Jackson......]

Culture Club including Boy George,
Band Aid,
Stevie Wonder........(Fade Out)

Re: Selective Memories

by mountain lion (04.22.05 12:21 pm)


Re: Selective Memories

by zip (04.22.05 12:33 pm)

I used to go to my friends house and watch John Hughes movies. IT was like, hey, this is suburbie. It really was about swimming pool dreams. Ah suburbia, home of the sweet adolescent vixen.

Play rewind play rewind. When are you going to get off your treadmill Du?

I bet you're one of those painters that stumbles over the under painting to lend the “piece” some weight. Like black on black right? GLoss over flat? Am I right? Like egg shell over matte. Jesus. Your formula could be followed by a chimp, and better. What an example you set.

Get with the program, eat the green crackers and transubstatiate. Its not that hard. I mean I go to the best libraries, I go to the best museums, I went to the best institutional learning facilities, but all I want is water, just plain fucking water.

To use the vernacular, your context is fucked.

Its enough to make me drink beer.

Unbekannt Unbeleave able

by cali forya (04.22.05 01:14 pm)

st. gen is a library, duchamp dead experimenter, Pantheon, large Roman temple, a tundra, thanks to Hadrians grecophilia and your ‘playful, wistful’ combination is embarassingly bad and stupid. go away.

a tundra?

by cali forya (04.22.05 01:17 pm)

that's funny, rotunda; like any of u 1st graders would know the diff.

Hey Du

by son of flipper (04.22.05 01:21 pm)

Kurt would fucking loathe you.
That Hole wack-job would love you.

think about it

Re: Selective Memories

by Unbekannt (04.22.05 01:53 pm)

“The miracles which were preformed there from the time of her burial rendered this church famous over all France, so that at length it began to be known by her name. The fabric, however, fell into decay, and a new church [which has a striking resemblence to one of Piranesi's designs within the Prima Parti, 1750] was begun in 1764. This has been secularized and, under the name of the Pantheon, is now used as a national mausoleum.”

“Boy oh boy, this hitting the Bullshit's Eye is getting funner all the time.”

Re: Selective Memories

by sharikov (04.22.05 02:05 pm)

im not very smart so i'm still trying to figure out on my abbacus how this person is using my NICKNAME, my internet personality signifier!
in any case, don't cross you and you'll bury me under painting related bullshit? OOOOOOOOOOOH. hey man i've been beaten half to death by female neo nazis, i'm not too worried about being buried by some peter plagens throw up. who gives a fuck about painting? who gives a fuck about art in general? why so worked up. you sound like eric fischl, stupid, self important, crafter of terrible paintings and lover of thyself. do your worst! bury me in painting related bullshit, i'm going to be watching Ellen.

Re: quit bashing jareth

by sharikov (04.22.05 02:06 pm)

hey jared i didn't know your MOM was on this board too!
quit bashing jareth! he's so handsome!

I ain't got nobody-nobody got me.

by son of flipper (04.22.05 02:08 pm)

through the looking ass

Re: If I'm lyin im dyone

by ring tone (04.22.05 02:14 pm)

Very modernist, I'm more into gawking at the low culture

Interesting picture, given that it was taken at a certain place, Phuket. Wash it away.

Is nice because it is adolescent, but becomes tepid in the Gagosian, where I saw it as part of an attempt to market DVD's. Alligot does it much better, and much less pretentiously. I'll leave it to others to contextualize.

Is the real butt of the joke n'est ce pas?

Unbekunt u shouldn't post when impaired w/ alcohol.

by The Chinese (04.22.05 02:14 pm)

Yeah son of delusional flip out

And i'm sure Kurt would say 2u, ‘so what r u doing here?’

But again, your ignorance prevails j arf barf flippy, Kurt was a painter 2, so he'd love me and think your bullshit corporate video malemale so much sell out progressive rock. Moreover he respected women "never met a wise man, if so it's a woman ... gotta get away, .... since u jocks don't, kurt condems u to Pop art.

still smarting over that slobedeh bullshit, eh? 2bad, I WIN! u fools waste time here. put it on canvas and have something 2 show 4 your time.

Re: Selective Memories

by sharikov (04.22.05 02:14 pm)

p.s im back shooting heroin again!

selective 4GETTING

by sharikov (04.22.05 02:26 pm)

im not very smart ... i've been beaten half to death by female neo nazis, ... peter plagens throw up. , i'm going to be watching Ellen.
Says it all; 2bad the nazi's didn't finish the job; peter plagens thanks 4 the compiment at least he gets published as opposed to the lame poetry here; Ellen, says it all.

I can adopt anybody's i d here cause i figured out or hacked the flaw in this system. I've xplained it b4 but idiots like Pen say it's impossible so i stopped xplaining. Isn't there a name 4 a disorder when people can't handle reality, denial mayb? 4 someone as brilliant as i am it didn't take long to get in. But there r holes in almost all systems, i mean i thought u were the gen who thought rSmithson entropy was the coolest thing around. Y esle r those dumb ass curators mounting yet 1 more show 2 set the record straight.

Moreover, Chericough, u never get on the internets as bush called it, with the idea that anything is secure. How stupid r u?

Like here i am doing flip out

by son of flipper (04.22.05 02:33 pm)

he's a twot, in house grunge xpert for RS, talk about living a fantasy past thru others. Courtney love wannab.

yeah flip u 4got 2 mention Screaming Trees of whom mark actually hung w/ nirvana. I guess u were the one who gave Kurt his first flanger and told him how to palm, not to mention designing his Jagstangs and humbukets. okay ur not a twot, ur a dickhead, same thing i guess.

Re: Selective Memories

by ring tone (04.22.05 02:37 pm)

Hey airbag, you're annoying enough as it is without pretending to be a HAXOR. Like dial up the matrix dude, riiiiiight. This shit is php, a NOTORIOUSLY EASY thing to hack. Like you.

As far as your explanation, apparently its some sort of magic that only one such as you can invooke. Well, AMAZING. I am duly impressed. I mean I cant do it, and Im a genius. I cant make cedar baskets either. Sue me.

Re: Selective Histrionics

by farmer john (04.22.05 02:38 pm)

shucks black-o-mama what gets yer goat? Everything?
I see ya got the do it until they do it down pat. Right?
So when “they” do “it” you can change the tune and deny ever doing “it”.
Jump theys shit for doing what you do.
blinded by a crappy what? get a book and decide how to respond with others thoughts you can claim to be your original.
got a tractor?


by farmer john (04.22.05 02:42 pm)

Cracker says Nigger.

'bout that tractor. don't want it. probly doan work.

now goan geetcher frizz up

maybe blue contacts? dye job?

Re: 50 eggs

by ring tone (04.22.05 02:46 pm)

if it aint hot flash what is it?

Oh, and...

by farmer john (04.22.05 02:54 pm)

Nigger says Cracker.

Re: Selective Memo

by wally cox (04.22.05 03:15 pm)

I could be wrong I could be right
could be wrong

I could be wrong I could be right
I could be black I could be white
I could be right I could be wrong
I could be white I could be black
Your time has come your secong skin
The cost so high the gain so low
Walk through the valley
The written word is a lie

May the road rise with you
May the road rise with you
May the road rise with you
May the road rise with you

Could be wrong I could be right
Could be wrong I could be right

I could be wrong I could be right
I could be black I could be white
I could be right I could be wrong
I could be black I could be white
They put a hot wire to my head
cos of the thing I did and said
And made these feelings go away
Model citizen in every way

May the road rise with you
May the road rise with you
May the road rise with you
May the road rise with you

Anger is an energy
Anger is an energy
Anger is an energy
Anger is an energy

May the road rise with you
May the road rise with you
May the road rise with you
May the road rise with you

Anger is an energy
Anger is an energy
Anger is an energy
Anger is an energy

Could be wrong I could be right
Could be wrong I could be right
I could be wrong I could be right
I could be black I could be white
I could be right I could be wrong
I could be black I could be white
Your time has come your second skin
The cost so high the gain so low
Walk through the valley
The written word is a lie

May the road rise with you
May the road rise with you
May the road rise with you
May the road rise with you

Could be wrong I could be right
Could be wrong
They put a hot wire to my head
Cos of the things I did and said
They made these feelings go away
A model citizen in every way
Your time has come your second skin
The cost so high the gain so low

May the road rise with you (Hey)
May the road rise with you
May the road rise with you
May the road rise with you

Anger is an energy
Anger is an energy
Anger is an energy
Anger is an energy
Anger is an energy
Anger is an energy
Anger is an energy
Anger is an energy
Anger is an energy
Anger is an energy
Anger is an energy
Anger is an energy
Anger is an energy
Anger is an energy
Anger is an energy
Anger is an energy
Anger is an energy

Re: Selective Memories

by ring tone (04.22.05 03:42 pm)

Husker Du stopped being angry around 1984, which according to a friend of mine is when they went to shit.

Video games man, they really chill me out between the killings.

Re: Selective Drag Races

by Big Daddy Don Garlits (04.22.05 03:58 pm)

that or suck a tail pipe


Re: Selective Memories

by kettle black (04.22.05 04:02 pm)

I'm a sieve man, a real rubric.

I was thinking of a career change to selling used art.

All Art is used

by Big Daddy Don Garlits (04.22.05 04:04 pm)

nothing new

you're there now


by Big Daddy Don Garlits (04.22.05 04:05 pm)

Dig a little deeper baby

by pot called the (04.22.05 04:10 pm)

dig a little harder

Re: Selective Memories

by kettle black (04.22.05 04:50 pm)

Pushing envelopes...vs pushing the envelope. slave mentality I guess. But the blank stares are hard to take. Specially from the experts.

Re: Selective Memories

by thingsthatgo (04.23.05 08:18 am)

I'm agreeable that there are no contradictions other than those from which we start. I'm also agreeable that we can benefit or learn something from communicating at this joint—sometimes less sometimes more.

Re: Top Down Mob Hit Photo

by zipthwung (04.23.05 01:20 pm)

Couldnt find it

Re: Selective Memories

by Jareth (04.23.05 01:38 pm)

great night, show at deitch australian i hear? brought out a chill but down scene, and had a fab stage. we know how i feel about kastobis work but i have to admit he is starting to grow on us, that or the furrry shirt. headed over to some b-party in east village, very chill great food and wine really nice crowd ... juat after our buddy ripped up the tables at tonic. i luv this 2-bit town.

Re: Selective Memories

by zipthwung (04.23.05 02:57 pm)

Lower manhattan arts council is a great business incubator.

I expect to see great things from these kids. Very professional show. Clean. I really enjoyed looking at their business cards. Evedently they are an international crowd - like Manhattan is the home to a lot of people from a lot of places and the LMCC really finds a good mix - Japan, Bulgaria, you name it. Some of these people have been assimilating for twenty years. Its hard, you know, being a foreighner in a foreign land. So grock it - they need you more than you need them. That's power for you. Go get it.

I liked the black air fresheners at Deitch - missed the band cuz I was too busy caging a bottle of orange flavored Mad Dog 20/20. Kind of like Alize without the class.

Next door stumbled on Guild and Greyschull - kind of a two degrees of separation thing on the potatoes - didnt give a close read, but potatoes are rad. Could be a Idaho thing or a Ireland thing. Neo Nazis to Famines. Overall a very concentration camp day.

Finished off at Barcade rocking TEMPEST.

I shot Prospero.

Re: Selective Memories

by Jareth (04.23.05 03:07 pm)

the band was fun, like a good shower after chealsea. open studios, bleh...

Re: Selective Memories

by kettle black (04.23.05 04:17 pm)

All alone at the end of the of the evening
And the bright lights have faded to blue
I was thinking 'bout a woman who might have
Loved me and I never knew
You know I've always been a dreamer
(spent my life running 'round)
And it's so hard to change
(Can't seem to settle down)
But the dreams I've seen lately
Keep on turning out and burning out
And turning out the same

So put me on a highway
And show me a sign
And take it to the limit one more time

You can spend all your time making money
You can spend all your love making time
If it all fell to pieces tomorrow
Would you still be mine?

And when you're looking for your freedom
(Nobody seems to care)
And you can't find the door
(Can't find it anywhere)
When there's nothing to believe in
Still you're coming back, you're running back
You're coming back for more

So put me on a highway
And show me a sign
And take it to the limit one more time

Take it to the limit
Take it to the limit
Take it to the limit one more time

Re: Selective Memories

by kettle black (04.23.05 04:31 pm)

Well, I don't care if it rains or freezes,
Long as I have my plastic Jesus
Riding on the dashboard of my car
Through all trials and tribulations,
We will travel every nation,
With my plastic Jesus I'll go far.

Plastic Jesus, plastic Jesus
Riding on the dashboard of my car
Through my trials and tribulations,
And my travels thru the nations,
With my plastic Jesus I'll go far.

I don't care if it rains or freezes
As long as I've got my Plastic Jesus
Glued to the dashboard of my car,
You can buy Him phosphorescent
Glows in the dark, He's Pink and Pleasant,
Take Him with you when you're travelling far

I don't care if it's dark or scary
Long as I have magnetic Mary
Ridin' on the dashboard of my car
I feel I'm protected amply
I've got the whole damn Holy Family
Riding on the dashboard of my car

You can buy a Sweet Madonna
Dressed in rhinestones sitting on a
Pedestal of abalone shell
Goin' ninety, I'm not wary
'Cause I've got my Virgin Mary
Guaranteeing I won't go to Hell

I don't care if it bumps or jostles
Long as I got the Twelve Apostles
Bolted to the dashboard of my car
Don't I have a pious mess
Such a crowd of holiness
Strung across the dashboard of my car

No, I don't care if it rains or freezes
Long as I have my plastic Jesus
Riding on the dashboard of my car
But I think he'll have to go
His magnet ruins my radio
And if we have a wreck he'll leave a scar

Riding through the thoroughfare
With his nose up in the air
A wreck may be ahead, but he don't mind
Trouble coming, he don't see
He just keeps his eyes on me
And any other thing that lies behind

Plastic Jesus, Plastic Jesus
Riding on the dashboard of my car
Though the sun shines on his back
Makes him peel, chip, and crack
A little patching keeps him up to par

When pedestrians try to cross
I let them know who's boss
I never blow my horn or give them warning
I ride all over town
Trying to run them down
And it's seldom that they live to see the morning

Plastic Jesus, Plastic Jesus
Riding on the dashboard of my car
His halo fits just right
And I use it as a sight
And they'll scatter or they'll splatter near and far

When I'm in a traffic jam
He don't care if I say Damn
I can let all sorts of curses roll
Plastic Jesus doesn't hear
For he has a plastic ear
The man who invented plastic saved my soul

Plastic Jesus, Plastic Jesus
Riding on the dashboard of my car
Once his robe was snowy white
Now it isn't quite so bright
Stained by the smoke of my cigar

God made Christ a Holy Jew
God made Him a Christian too
Paradoxes populate my car
Joseph beams with a feigned elan
From the shaggy dash of my furlined van
Famous cuckold in the master plan

Naughty Mary, smug and smiling
Jesus dainty and beguiling
Knee-deep in the piling of my van
His message clear by night or day
My phosphorescent plastic Gay
Simpering from the dashboard of my van

When I'm goin' fornicatin
I got my ceramic Satan
Sinnin' on the dashboard of my Winnebago Motor Home
The women know I'm on the level
Thanks to the wild-eyed stoneware devil
Ridin' on the dashboard of my Winnebago Motor Home
Sneerin' from the dashboard of my Winnebago Motor Home
Leering from the dashboard of my van

If I weave around at night
And the police think I'm tight
They'll never find my bottle, though they ask
Plastic Jesus shelters me
For His head comes off, you see
He's hollow, and I use Him for a flask

Plastic Jesus, plastic Jesus
Riding on the dashboard of my car
Ride with me and have a dram
Of the blood of the Lamb
Plastic Jesus is a holy bar

There is nothin that is cuter
than a smilin Jolly Buddha,
Ridin on the dashboard of my car,
I don't have no idol cuter,
comes in plastic, bronze and pewter,
Take him with me when I go afar.

Jolly Buddha, fat and squattin,
on a pad of aspirin cotton,
He's with me wherever I may roam,
When it's late and I start to hurry,
I know he ain't gonna worry,
He looks at me and all he says is, “Oooommmmmmm.”

There is nothing that is gaucher
Than eatin food that isn't kosher,
Right in front of my smilin Moses' face,
I'm afraid that he'll awaken
When I'm eatin ham or bacon,
And throw them Ten Commandments in my face.

I don't care if I'm broke or starvin'
As long as I've got a fish named Darwin
Glued to the trunklid of my car
God, I'm feeling so evolved
Drivin' with my problems solved
Proclaiming what I think of what we are

Riding home one foggy night,
With my honey cuddled tight,
I missed a curve and off the road we veered.
My windshield got smashed-up good,
And my darling graced the hood.
Plastic Jesus, He had disappeared.

cho: Plastic Jesus! Plastic Jesus,
No longer chides me with His holy grin.
Doctors in the X-ray room
Found Him in my darling's womb.
Someday, He'll be born again!

I don't care if it rains or freezes
Long as I got my plastic Jesus
Riding on the dashboard of my car
He's the dude with the rusty nails,
Walks on water, don't need no sails
Riding on the dashboard of me car

I don't care if the night is scary
As long as I got the Virgin Mary
Sittin' on the dashboard of my car.
She don't slip and she don't slide
Cuz her butt is magnetized
Sittin' on the dashboard of my car.

Now I'm feeling quite contrary,
cos I got the Virgin Mary
Sitting on the dashboard of my car
There's no room for imperfection,
in my Catholic collection
Which sits upon the dashboard of my car

Jesus, Mary and St. Patrick,
now I've got the holy hat-trick
Sitting on the dashboard of my car
One more statue I've got to get
is the plastic Bernadette
Sitting on the dashboard of my car

Plastic Jesus, you've got to go,
your magnet's burst my radio
Sitting on the dashboard of my car
But I, won't lose faith and I won't lose hope
cos, now I've got a pope on a rope
Swinging from the dashboard of my car

Once as I drove to Knock,
at a petrol station I got a shock
at the special offers that they had for me
20 more points and I can barter for a Jesus with stigmata
to sit upon the dashboard of my car

buy the light of the dashboard

by Jareth (04.24.05 01:00 am)

what a good night to stay in and edit

Re: what a good night for making art

by epforbrush (04.24.05 01:11 am)


Re: Selective Memories

by ring tone (04.24.05 01:11 am)

THird band. Not so bad. Not so good either. Not leaving the chair. Jesusfucking christ.
I just dont buy all this joi de vivre.

Re: Selective Memories

by Jareth (04.24.05 01:14 am)

ha give me an hour i will mail a sample out,.. it is actually lovely.. see i recomend the green and blue gels.

Re: as surreal as...

by epforbrush (04.24.05 01:18 am)

a pregnant stork?

Re: ptillian Charisma

by ring tone (04.24.05 01:50 am)

Last song - totally like a Social Distortion kinda earnestness. I'm curius how that flew over.

Beattles riff - kind of daytripper. I cant quite track it in my head. I stopped listening to the Beattles. No real memorable experiences to them either. Im a real nowhere man. Oh wait, ya, my philosophy professors loved Yellow Submarine, the movie.

.....But nightmare as this was, it set me free of the prison that most people live in - the fear of what other people think. Only by breaking free from that could I now be going around the world talking about shape-shifting reptilians occupying the positions of global power. If you need people to respect you as your sense of security, there is no way you would do that - one key reason why it has so rarely been communicated before. That ridicule was a major part of my journey and it set me free of so much.

dudes the man - 5 hr lecture and he gets a standing ovation.

you tell me, is he for real? What does one classify dude as?

Re: Selective Memories

(04.24.05 06:06 am)

God is the indead.
Behind the Cross stands the Devil.

Come, come, come - nuclear bomb

by confusionIs nothing new (04.24.05 11:08 am)

Everyday is like sunday
Everyday is silent and grey

Hide on the promenade
Etch a postcard :
How I dearly wish I was not here
In the seaside town
...that they forgot to bomb
Come, come, come - nuclear bomb

Re: Rapture: Osama Bin Laden, Where art thou?

by uri geller (04.24.05 01:29 pm)

"It reads like something straight out of the works of Robert Anton Wilson. Not his conspiracy theory spoofs, but his account of the effect of hierarchical structures on information. Far from concentrating raw data into usable intelligence, they degrade the data.

"Hierarchy was invented to regulate human relations with imaginary beings, and it still performs that function quite admirably. In the shadow of that pyramid, conspiracy theories are little grassy knolls.

Wild turkeys live in flocks organized by “pecking order.” This pecking order is a social ranking in which each bird is dominant over or “pecks on” birds of lesser social status. Pecking order has implications for people and nuisance turkeys. Turkeys may attempt to dominate or attack people that the birds view as subordinates. This behavior is most noticeable during breeding season. Once bold behavior is established, it can be very difficult or impossible to change. Turkeys may also respond aggressively to shiny objects or reflections. Since the stimulus to drive away the “intruder” is strong, and since the reflection does not disappear when the turkey confronts it, the bird will often continually display towards or attack the reflection until changing light conditions cause it to vanish.

Re: Selective Memories

by honey whitlock (04.24.05 05:03 pm)

Transmit the message, to the receiver,
Hope for an answer some day
I got three passports, a couple of visas,
You don’t even know my real name
High on a hillside, the trucks are loading,
Everything’s ready to roll
I sleep in the daytime, I work in the nightime,
I might not ever get home

Re: Selective Memories

by confusionIs nothing new (04.24.05 11:01 pm)

T.M. show very very hot.
cultural not artistic. but i feel not so much relevent in terms of “battle” well, T.M. work i belive is so he sees it in the great everything that is sexy and georguious, i feel it is more loleta then anything, girls who like to make that work, boys who like it.. wierdly strait.... so then i was all thinkin about boys in uniform and we ended up at that awsome spot at grand centrel, well first tried the hyatt... but nothing happening... i like grand cetrel quiet abit, earth day dolphin fuking, piegons.. where ever you go there you are. :)

Re: Selective Memories

by epforbrush (04.24.05 11:16 pm)


Re: Selective Memories

by honey whitlock (04.24.05 11:59 pm)


by thingsthatgo (04.25.05 12:07 am)

T< M is a trademark, but not necessarily of or for japan, he says so himself.
There are a lot of free people bout these days and as TD mentions many want steps into the cultural world. How they get there, well one way is through the TM styled machine that kids work on design jobs, Internet projects and as freelance illustrators especially if the preferred relationship is to keep some component in the mainstream. But there are as just as many different assignments and directions as there are traffic signals here (beleive it or not not everyone heads to the illustration and html department at art school), so it is only fitting that the flat hang up it's cloak for the time being to let some air in for you guys over there>>> fetish is good as an initial, but initials change at the speed of the wind—different speeds along seasons

Re: Selective Memories

by thingsthatgo (04.25.05 03:54 am)

I like this guy too, who has been lucky enough to make it over your way. He's soft and gentle—makes pretty delicate work, too, which anew, deftly, the word erudite. Stuff goes on, did you guys catch it at all?


by Bobo Brazil (04.25.05 08:58 am)

Turkeys may also respond aggressively to shiny objects or reflections. Since the stimulus to drive away the “intruder” is strong, and since the reflection does not disappear when the turkey confronts it, the bird will often continually display towards or attack the reflection until changing light conditions cause it to vanish.
God, this is as good as u morons can du 4 a weekend, ZipJarf arf googling inaccurate shit on turkey. Listen I own 50 acres of the side of a mountain in Nelson co. Va., wild turkeys r everywhere, and shiny objects mayb 10th or whatever on their list, foraging as in scratching up bugs/worms/slugs from leaves is primo, mating being a strong second. Think 4 a second doe doe birds, when does a wild turkey run into anything shiny in the wild. A pond, the narcississtic turkey??!! U people r so gullible.

Actually, the above google does kinda describe j arf arf in front of his many computer screens, desperately trying to ‘Do Video’ since he can't draw, but which he can't do since he don know the diff tween Nam Jun and the Viola.

Now J arf arf, tell me about Big Foot. or is it still stuck in your mouth?

Re: Selective Memories

by confusionIs nothing new (04.25.05 09:02 am)
Japan Society Gallery, Spring 2005
Little Boy: The Arts of Japan’s Exploding Subculture

sorry this.

Re: Selective Memories

by uri geller (04.25.05 10:04 am)

I kind of like the idea of Fluxists but so often its comlpete undisciplined shit. Like “suicide kits?” Please.

Nam Jun never made me all that curious with the visuals? - the altars and stuff didn't move me.

Even causing CANCER in Cello players as a critical project seems a bit beyond the pale.

Bill Viola, on the other hand, is a visual effects master? The first video I saw of his was the split screen trick where he cannonballs into a pool.

You can't step into the same river twice you know? I know you know. I know.

Anyways thats just stuff I was thinking about and stuff. But I really don't know much - I never saw a Nam Jun Paik performance, so all I GET is trashy ephemera. Those Asians are so spiritual you know?

u r kinda ignorant

by Michaels dangling baby (04.25.05 10:19 am)

if that's all u can say about Fluxisms attempts at ungluing the usuals of social exchange in order to refer humans to a position of aeshetic being, then I expect u think Jeff Koons facile balloons r all u need. Shiny, visually teasing and ultimately wanting, like all consumer goods.

God, how fuking shallow r u?

earliest Memories

by Michaels dangling baby (04.25.05 10:21 am)

The balcony, just something about the balcony.

i agree uri ne gueller don know fluxist from turkeys.

by Funeral Director (04.25.05 10:49 am)

Anyway, put J arf arf's body over there, he's so toxic it won't decompose for years.

However, i gotta ask. Y did the turkey cross the street?

Re: Selective Memories

by Jareth (04.25.05 10:51 am)

to stab the living shit out of you?

Re: Selective Memories

by uri geller (04.25.05 10:52 am)

Trick of perspective dude.

So youre going with the “baby was a doll” theory?

I'm an accomplished iconoclast, so you have to help me if the object means something to you.

Re: Selective Memories

by honey whitlock (04.25.05 11:25 am)

"in order to refer humans to a position of aeshetic being'

maybe humans want more?

You are already
asleep. I lower
myself in next to
you, my skin slightly
numb with the restraint
of habits, the patina of
self, the black frost
of outsideness, so that even
unclothed, it is
a resilient chilly
hardness, a superficially
malleable, dead
rubbery texture.

You are a mound
of bedclothes, where the cat
in sleep braces
its paws against your
calf through the blankets,
and kneads each paw in turn.

Meanwhile and slowly
I feel a is it
my own warmth surfacing or
the ferment of your whole
body that in darkness beneath
the cover is stealing
bit by bit to break
down that chill.

You turn and
hold me tightly, do
you know who
I am or am I
your mother or
the nearest human being to
hold on to in a
dreamed pogrom.

What I, now loosened,
sink into is an old
big place, it is
there already, for
you are already
there, and the cat
got there before you,
it is hard to locate.
What is more, the place is
not found but seeps
from our touch in
continuous creation, dark
enclosing cocoon round
ourselves alone, dark
wide realm where we
walk with everyone.

Re: People Change

by uri geller (04.25.05 11:52 am)

'There was a time when I thought I loved my first wife more than life itself. But now I hate her guts. I do. How do you explain that? What happened to that love?

Re: Selective Memories

by honey whitlock (04.25.05 12:10 pm)

cant be sure

the only person i hate is the one that hurt me, and never said sorry

Re: Selective Memories

by uri geller (04.25.05 12:22 pm),%20God.JPG

Jane Fonda was on the Bar TV last night. Bill Meahr was an idiot as usual. Jane Fonda was a bigger idiot.

4/22/2005 ) “I am going to go pound some mud, baby! Mmm,” Diaz said to the cameras. “It was the coolest thing to be a part of,” she added. As video of mud-pounding filled the TV screen, Diaz explained, “They (Nepalese villagers) continue to live in harmony with the world around them. It's a way of living very different than what we are used to. It seems to work.” But MTV viewers were not informed that Nepal has an infant mortality rate of nearly 69 deaths per 1,000 live births, about ten times the infant death rate in the U.S. Nor did they hear that life expectancy in Nepal is 59 years.

Re: Selective Memories

by Jareth (04.25.05 12:37 pm)

what did you do to make them hurt you?

Re: Selective Rentals

by son of flipper (04.25.05 12:45 pm)

Buy your own.

Re: Selective Memories

by Jareth (04.25.05 12:51 pm)

everyone one and everything is disposable

Re: Selective Memories

by honey whitlock (04.25.05 12:55 pm)

Musta done something. didnt mean to.

nah, I think they were taking something out on me, something from before. I know it.

I actually dont hate that person, just dont love, as I once did. Feels so bad—absence of love—you could call it hate, or anger...cant seem to make it go away. I know it would if they said sorry


by oops ment (04.25.05 01:07 pm)


Re: Selective Memories

by Jareth (04.25.05 01:12 pm)

well hate is something, and a bit of an investment try “dead to me”. -move on, block the number. block the e-mail it is 4 the best. if some one blows you off, who cares? the world is full of people.

I'm sorry too

by honey whitlock (04.25.05 01:12 pm)

u2 Baby

by honey whitlock (04.25.05 01:34 pm)

I'm really quite sweat and studiouse

Re: Selective Memories

by mountain lion (04.25.05 02:30 pm)

when people are creepy it is obvious
it is obvious to all who encounter them
obvious creepiness, evilness, sleaziness
is apparent
your transparent callousness
doesn't hide the slaughter inside of you

let's go to bed....

by Jareth (04.25.05 06:31 pm)

noticed that every movie at work has a gun in it this week.. was told that is what makes them “pulp”

But I don't care if you don't
And I don't feel if you don't
And I don't want it if you don't
And I won't say it
If you won't say it first

Re: mario B-just cant get enough

by honey whitlock (04.25.05 07:45 pm)

Asparagus and morel bruschetta

1 bunch medium asparagus, hard bottoms removed
2 shallots, minced
2 tablespoons pure olive oil
1/4 pound fresh morels, cleaned and cut in half
3 tablespoons extra virgin olive oil
2 tablespoons white truffle oil, optional
Juice of 1/2 lemon
1/2 bunch fresh thyme, leaves only
Salt and fresh pepper to taste
1 small baguette, sliced, toasted

Blanch asparagus for 1 minute and submerge in ice water to refresh; drain and set aside.
Saute shallots in oil until softened, about 1 minute. Add morels and continue cooking for 3 minutes until fragrant and tender; set aside.

When ready to serve, slice asparagus into 1/4-inch pieces, toss with morels, remaining oils, lemon juice, thyme leaves, salt and pepper. Spoon mixture over toast and serve. Makes 4 servings.

salt to taste

by thingsthatgo (04.25.05 08:42 pm)

food tells you quite a lot.

Rice Ball Recipe - Japanese Recipe


4 cups steamed Japanese rice
1 tbsp white sesame seeds
2 sheets dried nori (seaweed)
1 slice of salmon
Salt to taste


Salt the salmon slice for 30min. Grill or fry the salmon slice until edges are a little burned. After the salmon cools, flake it into small pieces and set aside. Cut nori seaweed into a medium rectangler shape(need 8 of these). Put warm Japanese rice in a large bowl and mix in the salmon flakes and sesame seeds well. Wet your hands in water so that the rice won't stick. Put a pinch of salt on your hands and grab a half cup of warm rice. Form the rice into a round or a triangle shape, by pressing lightly with your both palms. Wrap the rice ball with a sheet of nori.
* You don't have to wrap a rice ball with nori if you prefer.
Makes 8 rice balls.

Y did the turkey cross the street?

by Funeral Director (04.25.05 11:07 pm)

Sorry 2 take so long w/ the punch line, u c I paint 4 a living, do visiting artist things, critiques, sabbaticals, sell 2 gullible uppies who du video but want eye candy 4 their walls since video suketh like Jareth outside the sanctified walls of the bleached white male gallery, make lots of d'argent working a month or so at a print studio like @ Madison; anyway i paint 4 a living so i need to take long periods where i actually paint, i know, novel concept no 1 here would dare try, but somebody has 2 get down and lick the canvas. they especially like it when i put the brush up my ass and put down the sienna, cause u c u can do w/ a brush something that would take hours w/ a stupid video camera or draw, so, having to paint, wanting to paint, luving to paint means i don't always get back to the stupid non sequitors or equally stupid bad poetry, is that what it really is, i mean we all sorta know it's all written by J arf arf since he copied me w/ the idea of multiple aliases, although he's still miffed that i can adopt his identity but he can't mine, must be a linear left brain kinda guy, can't create, y he got into video since his drwg instructor told him u shouldn't draw anymore, please, seriously, u'll hut really hut somebody. I think i know what i'll do while letting some paint dry, i'll start critiquing the bullshit poetry, my point being nothing less than 2 make sure we all agree, well u and I jarf arf, we both agree that your ‘po ahems’ r not even good everyday language kinda thing, cause usually u simply quote from movies or what's on tv and google anything else which makes your ‘writing’ kinda mildewey, like the cellulite on that chuncky chik u were attempting to have an orgasm w/ but whom couldn't get u to u know do your business until u thought of Zip.

oh yeah, god everybody knows y the turkey crossed the street, but unfortunately jarf arf your response was wrong, again.

Hey speaking of art history and how u ass holes here diss it big time, i was talking to someone the other day who wrote a piece or was writing a piece on Ryan McGinness and was saying how well he managed the balance tweeen being in flux and using art history. Now who's on the money u fluking ass wipe used tampons.

Re: Selective Memories

by honey whitlock (04.25.05 11:11 pm)

ryan who?

Re: cunts and asses

by rockhudson (04.25.05 11:21 pm)

try working with a large fat diet coke induced white catholic girl who wants nothing more than making you feel like a slut- this will make you want to kill her day after day after day...........................................................................................................................................why would a large fat white dumpling of a girl want to make a tall smart woman feel like a slut? repeatedly? does she feel repressed by the pope? by her religion? by her own limited dull intellect and weak will? i would hate myself too if i couldn't control my will power and my fat sprawling stomach and if i were as ignorant as she, somebody, i really desperately need some insight, wisdom etc to deal with this cow who is feeding off my anger at my day job which i hate anyways and may serve to pay my bills but really only serves to underscore my feelings of humilitation and alienation from the human race.......................

Re: Selective Memories

by uri geller (04.26.05 12:55 am)

If you read the “non sequiturs” you'd see that almost none of them are. But you read like a autistic with a need for a suppository. Literal and tight assed.

Bad poetry is everywehere - even howl sucks if you look at it sideways instead of the heartfelt self serving romantic tripe that it is. Gotta love it.

I mean I don't claim to write “poetry” because that requires that it be “poetic” in the sense of two roads diverging and stuff like that. I can't write that kind of poetry. It makes my kidneys bleed. Eat my noise. I'll chew through your mind :p

Re: Selective Memories

by uri geller (04.26.05 01:00 am)

Re: Selective Memories

by honey whitlock, 04.25.05 10:11 pm

ryan who?

need to knoe basis!!!!!!

Re: Selective Memories

by Coxswain (04.26.05 01:05 am)

Who's Noe Basis?

Re: Selective Memories

by uri geller (04.26.05 01:06 am)

A baseball player, but I'm not sure who.

Re: Selective Memories

by uri geller (04.26.05 01:08 am)

Its like a CIA thing, only at Deitch.

Re: Selective Memories

by honey whitlock (04.26.05 01:33 am)

Im just trying to bug her. I know who Ryan McGinnis is. I saw lots of his work at the Beautiful Losers show. Being that Im a graphic designer, I know graphic design when I see it. Accreted clip art. Not that it isnt pretty, but it has little or nothing to do with art history.

Re: Selective Memories

by uri geller (04.26.05 01:41 am)

Art and Design are one these days dude. Like Agent Orange, Thalidomide, Balthus and the A-bomb conflate to some sort of sexy armless legless wonder.

For example.

Re: Selective Memories

by uri geller (04.26.05 01:44 am)

I uh actually was going to mention clip art in a rousing critique, but then Im an illiterate myself, and I got distracted with Lotte Reininger.

but then Im an illiterate myself

by Funeral Director (04.26.05 08:53 am)

Okay this is progress, but we knew that when u said u were a graphic designer. Must b j arf, he can't draw either. Moreover, if u can't c people dropping in lines w/ no relation here, then u r illiterate as u maintain.

as 4 mcguinness, what if he says he likes 2 fuk around w/ art history, then would u get real? Some of his decorative samples, god i thought 1 was acanthus, have lots of art hist baggage, wake up and smell the Baroque scrolls. U spend 2 much time mastering the learning curve on shit like photoshop/quark 2 know shit.

yeah like a graphic designer would no art hist

by Funeral Director (04.26.05 08:57 am)

In my classes those gd's were the most likely to get a 'c', while many wound up freaking out on the paper.

the agent orange gave u uri(ne) away, u sixties boomer dockers flabby assed mini van.

Re: Select your Memories

by thingsthatgo (04.26.05 09:44 am)

I said to my friend who is less than mildew, I mean far greater than, "you don't need to remember the Britannica before you jot down your first sentence. They said, “but the encyclopedia seems like a good place to start.”

“Sure, yeah!” I replied, “Ok, go about it, if you want to learn someone’s else’s mistakes."

Open the page where you like it. And if while skimming through none take your fancy, insert your own. But make it good.

“Is it possible?” quipped she.
“Sure just think how the first pages got there.” I snapped back.

Re: can I get a whit-ness

by honey whitlock (04.26.05 12:09 pm)

Yah this is progress. These aren't the same old people with new names, no, indeed. You have cleared the room. MMMMM breath of fresh air.

Tin ear.

Re: Selective Memories

by Jareth (04.26.05 12:48 pm)

yes i like Ryan... if not just for the poster above my bed in brooklyn... can you break that down in simpler terms.... “smart” is not a value for me... and just tuneing in now bit of a diet coke binge round christoper last night...

got to be me

by Jareth (04.26.05 12:49 pm)

i have alot of alias because if i posted to much in a day... cut off. but i only use the same 3. and never anyone elses...

Re: ARTF 100

by mountain lion (04.26.05 01:23 pm)

by toad, 05.06.01 06:41 pm

You state the obvious well.
Who uses the term avant-garde? Trash culture? Classist carpetbagging? The artists I mentioned razed heirarchies such as these. Warhol and Koons have been said to be dealing with irony, but Murakami is not ironic at all. He produces objects and images that circulate in manga shops in Japan, while they make their rounds in galleries all over the world. His work occupies both markets at once. So, he has an oppurtunistic and shameless appraoch to commercialism that is strong politically and
conceptually. He's not exposing anything. He's using the mechanisms at hand to play with distribution, thus putting the ball clearly and fully in his seductive and powerful court. I think He's really doing something.


Re: Selective Memories

by oops ment (04.26.05 01:45 pm)

Talkback Forum: The Movie

by kittyking, 09.11.02 02:53 pm

directed by kittyking (as a sort of Hal Hartley meets Baz Luhrman thing)
Matthew Broderick as Jerry Saltz
Sarah Jessica Parker as Roberta
David Spade as Charlie Finch
Phillip Seymour Hoffman as Max Herman
Sigourney Weaver as MargaretHelen
Linda Fiorentino as mmuttt
Richard Burton as welchsonnyo
Sean “PDiddy” Combs as Biggy
Dennis Hopper as thingsthatgo
Christopher Guest as BPrevidi
rob Lowe as Alligotwasthislousy
Mike Meyers (as Dr. Evil) as Koo-brick
Robin Williams as tagent
Hillary Swank as Chocoa
and Terry Winters as himself

Re: Selective Memories

by honey whitlock (04.26.05 02:03 pm)

Turns out Linda F. would be much too cool to be cast as the Hag.

Re: Selective Memories

by honey whitlock (04.26.05 02:08 pm)

I guess I should update that thing, shouldnt I Robbie baby?

Or maybe you can, Im kinda busy today.

Re: Selective Memories

by Jareth (04.26.05 03:38 pm)
not that i am not in to rob, but i really want bowie to play me :)

Re: Icons

by rockhudson (04.26.05 03:52 pm)

Re: Selective Memories

by honey whitlock (04.26.05 03:54 pm)

Yeah Rob is pretty but no. I was thinking John Cameron Mitchell, actually. Bowie too old, but if you want Bowie bayby you got him. Have to give him a couple of sandwiches.

Thinkin of Jennifer Jason Leigh to play me-method actress that she is—I know she'll eat the sandwiches ;)

the Hag

by oops ment (04.26.05 04:22 pm)

just du it noir

Re: Selective Memories

by Jareth (04.26.05 05:10 pm)

John Cameron Mitchell is very hot in person, i ran into him swimming over a pile of gold pillows, - suprise.

Re: Selective Memories

by honey whitlock (04.26.05 05:56 pm)

Yes, he's a mensch.

All the best,


Re: Selective Memories

by rockhudson (04.26.05 06:14 pm)

Re: Selective Memories

by confusionIs nothing new (04.26.05 10:30 pm)
The gay nigger movie to end all gay nigger movies .

Re: Selective Memories

by Jareth (04.26.05 11:28 pm)

there is a show on CBJB's on thirteen right now

Re: Selective Memories

by oops ment (04.26.05 11:38 pm)

cool I'm watching a show on the Philmore West on 31 right now.

It's Fillmore, shumbdit; and god is honeyWhite scarred of women

by The Hag (04.27.05 08:54 am)

Who uses the term avant-garde?
Actually, no body anymore; no manifesto's, no groupthink; pretty much pushing careers in order 2 avoid the 9-5 grind that turns u into insipid Jareth, w/o the cool embrace of bland.

Trash culture? Classist carpetbagging? The artists I mentioned razed heirarchies such as these. Warhol and Koons have been said to be dealing with irony,
Y not state the obvious, as if no one has brought Irony up b4, but then as usual u can't mention anything specific that is ironical in their work? Moreover, w & k, will always since they care nothing about the making will always be 'school of du', although the irony w/ Du was that he DID care about the making very much, that is, took great pains to make his work look not made by humans, as i the Tzank check. I know u fools will all have to look that up.

but Murakami is not ironic at all. He produces objects and images that circulate in manga shops in Japan, while they make their rounds in galleries all over the world.
Check it out, Les Levine pretty much covered this long ago, and pretty much that's all koons is doing now.

His work occupies both markets at once.
Again Du's Monte Carlo Bond already did this, not to mention the many ‘science’ projects du took to conventions and science fairs, promoting a ‘product’ totally useless.

So, he has an oppurtunistic and shameless appraoch to commercialism that is strong politically and
conceptually. He's not exposing anything.
Yeah, so when do we drop the bullshit art and just call his ‘approach’ business?

He's using the mechanisms at hand to play with distribution, thus putting the ball clearly and fully in his seductive and powerful court. I think He's really doing something.
Gee thanks 4 the assurance like your view means anything such as ‘mechanisms at hand'? what the hell is that hoary beast, what Jareth uses to whack his weeny? U remind me of this woman in a seminar i taught on contemporary who had obviously read her Foucault and kept saying 'the state apparatus’ no matter what topic. Got pretensiously annoying as well as icky stupid. Again Du's Monte Carlo, dOppenheim stock market xchange, Les Levine's Jello on important doc' xeroxes @ Cornell, and so on. This is all tried and true Chewed Gum @ this point. C what i mean by not knowing your art history?

I'm still wanting to

by The Hag (04.27.05 09:00 am)

have the asshole graphic designer calling McGuiness's work clip art to justify? Now there's the kettle calling the pot black, i mean u WOULD know what clip art is since gd's r lost w/o it?

Any painter that gets to Deitch has put in their time and 4 u second rate imagist 2 put him down w/o saying Y just speaks of the specious grease that makes up your narrown mind.


by thingsthatgo (04.27.05 09:07 am)

This thread has become too funny, and will probably go down in history—for all too many all sorts of reasons. Barbie, your next post—we are ready.

don't hate me because i am beuitful.

by Jareth (04.27.05 09:20 am)

how much of Ryan's work have you expeianced first hand? or spent time with? i feel you are most likely glancing and judging it on its style and meduim... much like comparing viola to paik... just because of “video”.. try looking a little harder at the Artists intentions. Ryan samples popular culture, to creat complex, often subversive or political narratives... of course you don't have to “know this” for it just to look cool, consiquenly he is able to apeal to a wide audiance. oh thats right, you get Pop as much as DaDA.

Re: Selective Memories

by thingsthatgo (04.27.05 09:58 am)

Yeah, but such smallz outta be shot with a good writer's word, don't you think?

Ryan McGuiness’s>>>>Alife and McGuiness define a lifestyle (sad wording) that is not stereotyped by one genre or trope (odd contraption, if not awkward contradiction). They re-enforce that this blending ( writer's trope, no?) that is occurring in art, goes way beyond the art world and thereby opening art to the public at large ( those who fuck-knows-what-they-are-looking-at-feel-good-doing-so). Alife and McGuiness demonstrate that art is in our everyday (buy this bag and don't think oo much baby).

Hey Hag it's also CBGB get it?

by oops ment (04.27.05 11:25 am)

hard to see the details when you're so high up isn't it.

Re: Selective Memories

by honey whitlock (04.27.05 12:06 pm)

Your evidence that I hate women? I like to give you a hard time, but you're not every woman, patti labelle.

What I said about RMcG is that the work has little to do w art history. It comes out of a design/commercial art background. And a street art background—it's basically stencilling. That's obvious fact, not a put down. Referencing acanthus leaves is not much of an engagement with art history. Now what Banksy did—plopping his paintings in the museums—that's about art history!!

Re: Selective Memories

by Jareth (04.27.05 12:47 pm)

“stylisticly” he comes out of “graphic design” tech. perhaps even the proliferation of vector based programs but his content goes far and beyond, how about the scupltureal elements, the maze of mirrors.. ? the soccer balls remind me of the basquiat helmet from the brooklyn muse. meets bickerton, perhaps he is to “new” for some people who can't get beyond the surface... however he reaches far and beyond the decortive (with out denying it) a similar vernacular (not style) as such historic figures as: Basquiat, Lichtenstein, Pettibon, Ruscha, Scharf, Warhol, Haring,

Re: Selective Memories

by honey whitlock (04.27.05 02:10 pm)

Thats a good argument Jareth. Ill have to check him out further. I have only seen the paintings at the Beautiful Losers show, which I liked, and someone told me they were right up my alley. Which they are, so why am I so underwhelmed by them? I must crave a bigger alley??

Re: Selective Memories

by Jareth (04.27.05 02:24 pm)

“Ryan McGinness is an artist who has exhibited his work internationally and been responsible for blazing a trail through the gap between art and design. By re-mixing and combining graphic vocabularies from a range of sources, his work comments on the iconographic conventions of our image-driven culture. His deft manipulation of visual codes gleefully subverts the systems in which they operate. Vogue Magazine recently recognized him as ”a leading pioneer of the new semiotics,“ and Wallpaper Magazineclaims that he has ”exalted the sign into an iconic art form."

Re: Devils and Dust

by zipthwung (04.27.05 02:26 pm)

Yo dudes, I am listening to Bruce Springsteen on NPR online - kinda makes you feel all sentimental.

The Boss is sentimental.

Very blue collar to be so blatantly sentimental.

Is Bruce Kitsch? Not exactly. He is the Boss. Immitators will be scorned (Amer-uh-cu- we stand as one...

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 9:26 am America:We Stand As One


If Lee Greenwood listened to rock and roll....words can not express...

OK now, Ive got nothing against digging your country and even writing about it, but why do these anthems have to be so... like this?

GLONO Board Playa

Joined: 22 Jan 2003
Location: Chicago
PM Web YIM Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 9:47 am


Holy. Fuck.

“What moved me the most was the idea of young kids stationed at a check point and you've got a very very short period of time to decide about the car thats driving towards you...”

What are we risking here Bruce? No one doubts Bruce feels - many people have the capacity to feel. Bruce, Like a graphic designer, risks little, not like a true artist.

When I read Art Spiegelman's Maus I was blown the fuck away. Evidently there were these mice that were imprisoned by these cats and stuff. What really intrigued me is that they wore clothes and had a western style civilization. Thats Von Daniken “Chariot of the Gods?” Material. Speaking of which....

RyanMC is a hard edged stenciler no doubt.
Not very sentimental. Definitely high class - those mirrors of his were spotless. Like Altjmed and Co. Who polishes all that glass? The illegal Guatamalan maid no doubt.

Is graphic design middle class? Yes, despite its elitist pretentions. Essentially graphic design is a clerical possition that encompasses design of containers, promotional materials, layering information for readability. The cognitive skills involved are not that advanced. No one is going to give a graphic designer a McArthur Grant or the like. Prove me wrong.

I'd argue that GD's cachet is going down by the hour as community colleges pump out masters of the latest software - how many of you know Photoshop CS, InDesign, Motion, Flash MX and so on? Do you think those dudes have ANY sense of history after filling their heads with these mental algorythms?

I can appreciate the use of stencils and the baroque swirls, but that stuff is old hat to graphic designers. Very nineties in style.
Dated, just like Ryan, from the designer's point of view.

If its an art historical point, then doesnt that make him a caged bird? If its just another rubics cube one liner, what is the point? Intellectual exercise?

There's a war going on and dudes fucking with mirrors. Fuck him, fuck them all.

Bruce, sing it:

Tiger Schulman's Karate may be granting black belts to six year olds, but at least people understand where Karate came from.........

and lord, I know, I'm one.

Re: Selective Memories

by honey whitlock (04.27.05 02:38 pm)

yes—-its all very david carson

hey—-they gave a macarthur to judy pfaff—she accretes.

i dont know—everything is everything

and I never got Bruce Springsteen at all—ugh.

Re: Selective Memories

by Jareth (04.27.05 02:38 pm)

anyhow my point being he arrived at his “hard edge graphic style” thru a long maturation process of trial and error, which is evident if you go thru his site...

start at 1994 and work up...

well at least we are not alone in our recent feelings about the Chelsifiation of Art

questions is who is going to do anything other then get spoonfed by the achemies... if your going to talk the talk...

Re: Selective Memories

by zipthwung (04.27.05 03:01 pm)

Is ten or eleven years a long maturation process? Relative to what?

What is good?

Should art deal with emotions?

Is art different from design?

Does anyone have a story to tell about the internecine warfare between art and design departments at their local institution?

god damn

by Bobo Brazil (04.27.05 03:11 pm)

i hit a nerve; can't talk gotta paint, but funny 2 c u surfer boys getting so hot and bothered. Keep up the good work. Actually i don't think ry mcg is anything more than shallow operating bunches of 2d vehicles, but that's bside the point.

Re: Rebuses

by zipthwung (04.27.05 03:28 pm)

Medium or message?


by Jareth (04.27.05 03:35 pm)

i am so sick of your shit talk, always on the attack hideing behind everyones name but yours, and second hand Art History not to mention never presenting your own work.... it is pretty obvious you lack in anything orignal to say surely your painting are equally as important. you are such a cowerdly little cunt.

Re: Selective Memories

by honey whitlock (04.27.05 03:43 pm)

Actually i don't think ry mcg is anything more than shallow operating bunches of 2d vehicles, but that's bside the point.

That would be consistent with your past positions, but you are often wildly inconsistent. So why did you cite RMcG?


The sun shines
And people forget
The spray flies as the speedboat glides
And people forget
Forget they're hiding
The girls smile
And people forget
The snow packs as the skier tracks
And people forget
Forget they're hiding.

Behind an eminence front
Eminence front - It's a put on.

Come on join the party
Dress to kill
Won't you come and join the party
Dress to kill.

The drinks flow
People forget
That big wheel spins, the hair thins
People forget
Forget they're hiding
The news slows
People forget
The shares crash, hopes are dashed
People forget
Forget they're hiding.

Behind an eminence front
Eminence front - it's a put on
Come on join the party
Dress to
Come on join the party
Dress to
Come on join the party
Dress to
Come on join the party
Dress to kill
Dress yourself, dressed to kill.

the world is not my home i am just passing thru...

by Jareth (04.27.05 05:06 pm)

John Baldessari
WED APR 27 @ 6:30 PM
Since the 1970s American artist John Baldessari has investigated the production of meaning in a unique artistic practice that combines Pop art imagery with Conceptual art’s use of language.

Re: Day Care

by zipthwung (04.27.05 05:15 pm)

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Re: I will not go to anymore boring lectures.

by zipthwung (04.27.05 05:57 pm)

I hope someone asks JB what he's listening to these days

All that you touch
All that you see
All that you taste
All you feel.
All that you love
All that you hate
All you distrust
All you save.
All that you give
All that you deal
All that you buy
beg borrow or steal.
All you create
All you destroy
All that you do
All that you say.
All that you eat
And everyone you meet
All that you slight
And everyone you fight.
All that is now
All that is gone
All that's to come
and everything under the sun is in tune
but the sun is eclipsed by the moon.

“There is no dark side of the moon really. Matter of fact it's all dark.”

One time I was hiking in a canyon filled with rattlesnakes and other wildlife. One of my companions rolled a rock down the hill, something my parents had told me never to do. “Its dangerous'” they said. Later we saw a mountain goat standing next to a baby mountain goat. Did the rock crash through the bushes and hit the goat? No one knows for sure.

Re: Selective Memories

by honey whitlock (04.27.05 07:36 pm)

I read that Trent's giving it away::::

You're keeping in step
in the line
got your chin held high and you feel jsut fine
because you do
what you're told
but inside your heart it is black
and its hollow and it's cold

just how deep do you believe?
will you bite the hand that feeds?
will you chew until it bleeds?
can you get up off your knees?
are you brave enough to see?
do you want to change it?

what if this whole crusade's
a charade
and behind it all there's a price to be paid
for the blood
on which we dine
justified in the name of the hold
and the divine

just how deep do you believe?
will you bite the hand that feeds?
will you chew until it bleeds?
can you get up off your knees?
are you brave enough to see?
do you want to change it?

so naïve
to keep holding on to what i want to believe
i can see
but i keep holding on and on and on and on

will you bite the hand the feeds you?
will you stay down on your knees?


I always tell them we're not supposed to do it, but then my husband throws a rock and pretty soon we're all hurling huge boulders down the canyon


by persimmon life studies (04.27.05 07:43 pm)

Is that analytic cubism poetry? I've heard it somewhere before. Rat on the boards—tat tat.

yours sincerely
persimmon life studies

Re: Dark side of the moon

by rockhudson (04.27.05 10:22 pm)

this kid i sat next to in trigonometry died just after high school by sliding off the edge of a cliff when he was mountain climbing with his friend in the rockies...the kid who sat in front of him was a mormon who had his wisdom teeth extracted and strung up on a necklace that he wore to class...his father was the chief of police in my town...he had like 13 brothers and sisters or something...

Re: Subjective rants

by rockhudson (04.27.05 10:25 pm)

the ongoing feud here on talkback reminds me of what it must be like to be amongst a group of arts administrators or any group of people who are charged with making ‘objective’ decisions about artists or art...since all art's quality is a subjective opinion, any curator, art school administrator or gallerist that must reach consensus within a group is trying to do the impossible

Speaking or writing of going ballistic

by Bobo Brazil (04.27.05 11:22 pm)

I remember when i was assistant 2 mmuttt or duchance u thought they got mad @ u and luved it.

i am so sick of your shit talk, always on the attack hideing behind everyones name but yours, and second hand Art History not to mention never presenting your own work.... it is pretty obvious you lack in anything orignal to say surely your painting are equally as important. you are such a cowerdly little cunt.
Jarf arf, u bark so loudly, 2 much Lipitor. I 4got 2 mention above as far as the bozo some body referred to as interested in only the xchange and stuff, well let us not 4get, Hans Haacke great works especially his whitney board disclosure which rewrinkled a few face lifts. Haacke's corporate essays covered the above mentioned w/o aesthetics.

U spelled cowardly wrong. Like Jarf w/ your holding out your best info for Mr. Right (zip), do u think i give any of my research up? I simply mouth what is considered graduate level class material. My gripe is Jarf attempts to pretend he knows desperately googling shit. The Nam Jun/ Viola took care of that. U don't even know the background by your admission of your own chosen field.

How is art history anything but Second Hand, kinda intrisic to the field, but u hate all this shit anyway so let it go big guy. Deep breaths, many. As 4 originality, now there u go again, not being truthful. When I 1st did Bobo Brazil, and u hadn't figured it out yet, I called u a dickless penis and u gave me kudos 4 that. Ha, caught again feckless fart fart hiney butt poop. U just can't stand it that i figured out 2 range supreme over everyone. so anyway, I brought up Haacke, and u did not so how can u say my art history isn't there? U and none of your accompanying boys here couldn't do it. So keep looking at brown and thinking it's dark, one day u'll finally see real black.

that was funny U dickwad

by dickwad (04.27.05 11:35 pm)

Re: Selective Memories

by zip (04.27.05 11:35 pm)

As a seventh dan Tiger Schulman's Karate blackbelt I have to watch what I do. I share the onus of an onerus burden.

For example, people walk up to me and can't get past the belt. They want to fight me or ask how they can get one too. What they don't realize is that there is a living breathing human being in this Karate Gi with the large Tiger Schulman's Karate patch on it.

I can admit I don't know what analytic cubism poetry is, and it sounds intense.

i need your help to fill me in on stuff like that. I can't do it alone. I hope that you are a team player. I'm cool with others having a creative role, just so long as the integrity of my creative product remains intact.

Re: Selective Memories

by zip (04.28.05 12:18 am)

Full Name: zipthwung
Email Address:
Topic: Other
Short Description: Menu bar
Detailed Description: Hello,

I was visiting and they put another menu bar on my browser - I have internet explorer. I really like it!!!!!!
Its very helpfull.

I have a problem however. My husband hates it, as it means he cant look at his porn without scrolling the window.

So I'm supposed to remove it. I asked a computer whiz kid who i'm supposed contact and they said you guys registered so I'm asking you.



You Need a Pool Boy

by Coxswain (04.28.05 02:33 am)

I have papers and a sturdy pair of shoes.

Re: Selective Memories

by Jareth (04.28.05 02:40 am)

oops sorry that was me didn't sign out in, big night met college buddy at lecture ... party time!

J Arf Art

by Scooby Du (04.28.05 08:46 am)

i am so sick of your shit talk, always on the attack hideing behind everyones name but yours, and second hand Art History not to mention never presenting your own work.... it is pretty obvious you lack in anything orignal to say
So jarf, have u calmed down yet? U've already claimed i'm a bully, attack dog etc. U need new material.

Now as far as the names, well they r the characters in my head ('all my friends r in my head'). u don want me 2 suppress them, besides when friends stop by I have them write something. I show them your bland stuff, which u think is great, and they take it from there.

I thought originality was bad in art and that's y u cut and paste everything, your ‘art’ of found info, like the old Stones songs, Street Fighting Man (now there 's a good joke, jagger as sfm). I can c u and zip out there battling republicans, posing like Gilbert and George.

Anyway, u still never answered, I came up w/ Hans Haacke as an example of the artist who's already done ‘exchange potlatch’ type stuff 2 show the above idiot his artist is chewed gum. Viable, applicable use of art history. That proves u r a shallow poseur and that I win. Of course I always win since u can't draw and I can do the takeover i d thing and u can't. So as Cartman would say, “eat shit and die, asshole.”

Re: Selective Memories

by Jareth (04.28.05 08:57 am)

yawn.... give me a few days to dig out old slides and scan them, i don't have any drawings in digital form... as i didn't know how to use a computer at that point and i would be happy to e-mail them to you, you can be the judge of if i can draw or not, for better or worse i did have years classes... for years and years, and sell - (that is how you judge things nes pa?) it will be a while however as i am working days and nights this week solid...
anyho, i am fairly certian you can't paint for shit. i “sample”, see unless you know, - what is shot and what is appropreated from ur personal knowleadge bank you don't know what is original content and what is not or where it came from. pure simulacra. you on the other hand are fairly drull and apparent, and a lovely way to start out a shinny nyc day..


by thingsthatgo (04.28.05 09:57 am)

Finding found things in new contexts doesn't always work but when it does it works like a baby. Do you know babies are born every day? A baby boy and baby girl, even a baby du—imagine that! a baby du. It does happen, and probably quite often. After you get that title something else happens. There is this other title awaiting—another name, perhaps Jun, or Reiko, or Simon or Lisa, or even sometimes two possible dus with the personalizing straw at one end Simon and the other Lisa. Now many days will pass and that straw might even repass— Lisa marries a Simon, or Simon marries a Simon or Lisa marries a Lisa. Or, and it can come to pass, Simon and Lisa decide that the Simon and Lisa thing is OK as they are finding a new thing in an old thing in new contexts. All this is not very logical, and I couldn't have followed it without first following life. Du life.

Love to see them drawing not that it would sway judgment. Drawing are just drawing and something you look at—beats me why—that ain't logical either.

Re: Selective drawings

by rockhudson (04.28.05 10:44 am)

i don't draw to make good drawings and i doubt many people do as you have the first gesture and that one unmistable reality and that's it- i draw to be in touch with a truth that might otherwise be quiet and undiscernable in my sculptural work- i have trained myself over a long period of time to draw with my non-dominant hand and it's become a very efective practice...everybody knows that sculptors can draw well, we see things as lines

Re: Selective Memories

by Jareth (04.28.05 10:52 am)

will do ttg. located a slide scanner... will have to locate slides, haven't seen in years but they must be at folks house. wouldn't hold your breath, nothing very “deep” mainly drawings about people i was thinkn bout at the time, tight closeups, my roomate ken, a teacher, for some reason philip glass, and women in corsets from porn mags i found on the side of the road, then things moved farther from literal pictoral represention of subjects, and trying to understand the form in a more personal way, - basicly used a flood light and drew “shadow boxing”.. (this is all very enjoyable with a steady income of student loans and a huge studio..) segway to video happened through doing 16mm work which i consider small drawings as they delt with hand manipulation and delt with frame by frame... millions of very small drawings... the fact that i deal with video in a simlar way is what makes me enjoy this du thing all the more...

Re: Selective advice

by rockhudson (04.28.05 11:27 am)

Careers in the visual arts : a guide to jobs, money, opportunities, and an artistic life / Dee Ito. New York : Watson-Guptill Publications, 1993

Previously published as: The School of Visual Arts guide to careers. c1987

Re: Selective Memories

by Jareth (04.28.05 11:44 am)

name that painting...
is that a stella in the start of secret of my success?? first time he sees that girl? what building is that?

Re: Selective Strolling

by Coxswain (04.28.05 12:42 pm)

stay out of midtown

Pure similacra?

by Scooby Du (04.28.05 05:24 pm)

There it is, J arf at his best or worse. How can similacra b pure? Kinda like saying ‘Original Copy', or like my 'Dickless Penis’ characterization of u.

Still no comment on Hans Haacke, (can't fiind him in Google goo goo boy?), sorry but it all adds up.

I win!

Re: Selective Memories

by confusionIs nothing new (04.28.05 05:35 pm)

life is natural contradiction... u can have pure anything
i have decided you spend your time here data minning for your own personal uses (what ever that may be)... and i really don't want to help you out. ya i only hear about H.H. everytime i am at the goog. for the past few months.

Re: Selective Software

by oops ment (04.28.05 05:46 pm)

u 2 can b a god

just have to know where to shop

-amazing randy

Re: Selective Contemporaries?

by obese american observer (04.28.05 05:57 pm)

Hone it HoneyDu

Re: Selective Memories

by Jareth (04.28.05 11:54 pm)
thats amazing.

Re: that's incredible

by epforbrush (04.29.05 12:07 am)

although no one expects to find new colors (except those we ses with closed eyes) the discovery of new forms is not precluded.

karl gerstner, the forms of color

Re: amazingly randy?

by zipthwung (04.29.05 12:11 am)

is tradition postmodern, late modern or post post modern?

Spotlight, shining out for you and me

by Jareth (04.29.05 12:11 am)

His central achievement is often seen as the personalizing of the medium, his transformation of the projected image away from the relatively neutral record of the world to which documentaries aspire to an expression of an individual's emotions, ideas, dreams, fantasies, visions, eye-music, closed-eye seeing, and nightmares. To achieve this transformation he marshaled — and in some cases pioneered — a daunting panoply of techniques, from out of focus and over and under exposure to rapid editing to painting directly on the film strip to anamorphic distortion to collaging objects directly onto celluloid to heating raw stock before exposure.

Re: Selective Memories

by Jareth (04.29.05 12:14 am)

oh yeah, du, du.... more of the H.H. hype tonight. go figure,.

Re: elemental dear watson

by epforbrush (04.29.05 12:17 am)

we may, or may not be aware of the disagreement among physicists about primary colors. they all believe there are three, but sir david brewster thought the three colors were red, yellow, and blue; thomas young suggested red, green, and violet; j. clerk maxwell's experiments were based on red, green, and blue.

color, a complete guide for artists by ralph fabri

Re: Selective Memories

by Jareth (04.29.05 12:18 am)

ask D.B. about his theroys on red.

Re: Who's afraid of RGB

by zipthwung (04.29.05 12:32 am)

Yet they also coyly allude to Buren's assertion that the artist's studio is made to function like a boutique selling ready-to-wear clothing: the curator or collector visits the studio, selects the pieces that he or she wants, and leaves with a work of art that can be placed in any number of new contexts over which the artist has little or no control.

Stuff the common man just doesn't understand.....

Re: lonely is the night

by epforbrush (04.29.05 12:33 am)

Red lights, green lights, stop ’n go jive
Headlines, deadlines jammin’ your mind
You been stealin’ shots from the side
Let your feelin’s go for a ride

Re: institution of critique

by zipthwung (04.29.05 12:52 am)

We're talking away
I don't know what
I'm to say I'll say it anyway
Today's another day to find you
Shying away
I'll be coming for your love, OK?

Take on me, take me on
I'll be gone
In a day or two

So needless to say
I'm odds and ends
But that's me stumbling away
Slowly learning that life is OK.
Say after me
It's no better to be safe than sorry

Take on me, take me on
I'll be gone
In a day or two

Oh the things that you say
Is it life or
Just a play my worries away
You're all the things I've got to
You're shying away
I'll be coming for you anyway

Take on me, take me on
I'll be gone
In a day

Take on me, take me on
I'll be gone
In a day

Re: O.S.H.A. - sha

by uri geller (04.29.05 02:06 am)

We can dance if we want to, we can leave your friends behind
'Cause your friends don't dance and if they don't dance
Well they're no friends of mine

Say, we can go where we want to, a place that they will never find
And we can act like we come from out of this world
Leave the real one far behind

And we can dance

We can go when we want to, the night is young and so am I
And we can dress real neat from our hats to our feet
And surprise them with the victory cry

Say, we can act if we want to, if we don't nobody will
And you can act real rude or totally removed
And I can act like an imbecile

Say we can dance, we can dance
Everything's out of control
We can dance, we can dance
They're doing it from pole to pole
We can dance, we can dance
Everybody look at your hands
We can dance, we can dance
Everybody taken the chance

The safety dance
The safety dance
The safety dance

We can dance if we want to, we've got all your life and mine
As long as we abuse it we are never going to lose it
And everything will work out right

Say, we can dance if we want to, we can leave your friends behind
'Cause your friends don't dance and if they don't dance
well they're no friend of mine

Re: Friends of mine

by rockhudson (04.29.05 02:12 am)

Color, good time 2 eDUcate jarf arf arf

by Scooby Du (04.29.05 08:34 am)

we may, or may not be aware of the disagreement among physicists about primary colors
Yeah and painters were fools to listen to physicists. The existence of primary colors is irrelevant to painters as there r no pigments manufactured which r unbiased, some blues, ultramarine e.g. being claimed 2 b more red biased than prussian b and so on. The pigments in oil don't match w/ those of water colors, gouache and powders. Moreover the 20 C. scientizing of color is just plain wrong, i have never taught in class that the compliment to yellow is purple, for me it has always been as nature dictates, the most contrasting thing to the yellow sun is the blue sky. this comes from my own experience w/ paint, not what so many scientists and art educator slaves have attempted. Lastly when u get into underpainting, mixing in or juxtaposing warm neutrals vs. cool neutrals all the simplistic complementary schemes tend to fall apart, unless 1 is sticking to an arbitrarily monochromatic or ‘complimentary’ schema.

Lesson for J arf arf: don't b a slave 2 the scientists, they're all George Bush's.

Re: Selective Memories

by magdalene (04.29.05 09:17 am)

well actually the answer had to do with “perception” and “language” and “comunication” anyhow... your turn... y is H.H's name going to suddenly start going around alot more?

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by Jareth (04.29.05 11:47 am)

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They want to bring the world-famous museum to Singapore to fill the missing Asian link in its global chain.

In fact, some industry players the Guggenheim buildings are themselves more famous than the art works on display inside them. - CNA/de

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by uri geller (04.29.05 12:11 pm)

Art is going to get so much more real.

When I hyppnotized Michael Jackson and he told me that his relationship with children was very beautifull, I believed him. You should too.

People ask me why I still bend poons and I tell them its just a meaningless ritual.

Leon Golub's gotten a defibrilation....

and you know, concensus.....

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Re: Selective Memories

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Re: is the art world ready for me?

by rockhudson (04.30.05 12:21 am)

makes me think i ought to be making my work more ‘out there’ ‘in your face’ ‘issue oriented’ ‘odd and strange’
don't define your work my art teacher says, just let it be called your art

Re: Selective Memories

by magdalene (04.30.05 10:03 am)

“is the art world ready for me?”
what does that mean?

Re: Selective Memories

by rockhudson (04.30.05 11:13 am)

my art teachers new philosophy
actually a revised version of his original philosophy that when the work is ready, the art world will appear

Re: oops meant

by rockhudson (04.30.05 11:22 am)

looking at kara walkers work, i admire her for putting so much ‘content’ into her work

Re: Selective Memories

by magdalene (04.30.05 01:41 pm)

i think the Art world should cum on over after open studio's this sunday, we heard it is a few blocks away, it will be great they can watch themselves, drink and eat McDonalds...

Re: Selective Memories

by magdalene (04.30.05 01:49 pm)

unaware i guess i ended the evening with a nice big glass of mushroom tea, very strange experiance to fall asleep for 12 hours ... or “non sleep”...

i admire her for putting so much ‘content’ into her work

by Scooby Du (04.30.05 02:49 pm)

2 bad she paints like Olitski w/o color. Form disconnect/kill content.

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